zouden said:

I do not buy into the idea that the climate scientists are just trying to keep their job. That is ridiculous. If you're a scientist you don't keep your job by falsifying data, because there's always someone looking over your shoulder.

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Now I'm not going to argue about over-hyped scaremongering like 20ft sea rises. But even the conservative estimates regarding drought are cause for concern. I live in a country that's had a drought on-and-off for twenty years. If it gets worse it'll destroy our food supply.

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Gov. Kulongoski justified himself by saying that Taylor's views "interfere with the state's stated goals to reduce greenhouse gases."  Scientific positions have been politicized and many scientists who hold contrary views to DAGW proponents have been removed or have shut up under pressure.

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So you automatically attribute a dry spell to AGW?  Maybe you're right, but I'd like to see some solid evidence that there is a long-term drying trend attributable to global warming in your country.  More likely it is just a dry spell, or your climate is changing of its own accord in a way that you don't like.  I understand why you want a scapegoat, but please prove it to me.

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zouden said:

But isn't slowing global warming enough of a benefit for you? The latter half of this century is going to be absolutely disastrous for humanity if we don't at least reduce the effects. Rising sea levels is one thing, but the real killer will be the droughts.

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It rains too much here anyway and I've got a creek by the house.  I want my warmth.  

Plus how else are we going to get these nasty vermin off the planet?
Plus plus at my age it's not going to be a problem.

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Inhofe Report Exposes Environmental Groups as ‘Massive Democratic Political Machines’

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, today released an updated comprehensive investigation into the financial and political activities employed by charitable and environmental organizations claiming to be non-partisan. [See today’s updated full report: Political Activity of Environmental Groups and their Supporting Foundations - Previously in 2004 Senator Inhofe released the original report on environmental group funding. See: INHOFE RELEASES DETAILED REPORT ON ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP POLITICAL FUNDRAISING – October 5, 2004]

“Campaigns to ‘save the cuddly animals’ or ‘protect the ancient forests’ are really disguised efforts to raise money for Democratic political campaigns,” Senator Inhofe said during a floor speech today presenting the new report. “Environmental organizations have become experts at duplicitous activity, skirting laws up to the edge of illegality, and burying their political activities under the guise of non-profit environmental improvement.

“Take this ad for example, displayed on the League of Conservation Voters, or LCV, website. This is LCV’s standard text used to raise money for the nonprofit organization. In turn, LCV takes these donations, given to ‘save the environment’ and uses them to fund ads for Democratic Candidates such as Ben Lujan from New Mexico. LCV, similar to other groups I’ll highlight later, disguises itself as an environmental group dedicated to saving the environment, yet, as shown by this political ad, it is simply an extension of the Democratic political party. 

“What we find now is the fleecing of the American public's pocketbooks by the environmental movement for their political gain.  We also find exhausting litigation, instigation of false claims, misleading science, and scare tactics to fool Americans into believing disastrous environmental scenarios that are untrue. Especially in this election year, the American voter should see these groups and their many affiliate organizations as they are: the newest insidious conspiracy of political action committees and perhaps the newest multi-million dollar manipulation of federal election laws.

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