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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
BoneMan said:
What does any civilian need with an assault rifle anyway?



600 million firearms in the united states, more than 7 million
of those are 'assault weapons', just what is the percentage of
these guns that are used in any sort of crime?



so, the assault rifles make up a little over 10% of all the weapons owned by civilians, and based on someone's earlier statistic, ALL rifle deaths only make up 3%, which would also include all bolt action and non assault rifles.  Damn, i sure hope this ban goes through to protect us all, since they cause SO much damage...:rolleyes:

Whoever said its to look good by banning the demonized assault weapon is absolutely correct, it will do nothing to lower crime deaths...those that use them for criminal purposes will continue to do so whether they are legal or not, and only the law abiding citizens will be without, GREAT way to protect everyone, give them only to the criminals...is this not blatantly obvious?

And the answer to why i need one, its primarily used at this time for enjoyment, i like to take it out the range, and fire off some rounds, i get great joy out of hitting a target open sighted with my sks at 200yds, why?  I don't know, but i do.  Secondly, it could be useful in mid-range combat, to get off many rounds quickly, though they are very weak.  If i wanted to do real damage to somebody, i would pull out my deer rifle with a scope, and hit from 400yds with knockdown power, and still enough velocity to pierce body armor...the entire 'assault weapons are not needed and dangerous' argument is evidently flawed, since they over time have proven to cause so much crimes.  The banning only takes them from law abiding citizens, not those that commit the crimes, they will continue to commit the crimes, and usually with their ILLEGALLY obtained handgun, not their legally obtained assault rifles.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Shr00mZ]
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suppressors have legitimate applications, ever take a .30 cal out
to go shooting, well it a guarantee that your neighbors will be
alerted to the fact that you're blowing off a few dozen rounds,
in my particular case I have a problem with both deer and coyotes,
dont see either in the daytime very often and I'd hate to wake the
neighbors with a couple shots trying to protect my crops from being
devastated by an abundant deer population

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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here's another reason to have assault rifles, not all the people in a corrupt future gov are going to be on the streets face to face with you.  they already have drone planes.  and the people behind these drone planes and land combat units, are going to be the same people that grew up on video games delusioned with the idea that killing is fun. and the gov preys on these kids, some of the gov ads are just...bs.



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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Shr00mZ]
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Shr00mZ said:
The fact is hunters dont use assault rifles..... the second amendment isnt for hunters. Its for us to protect our country as the people. City people hate guns, country people love them. Thats just how it is. I want a suppresor for my shotgun. wtf would I do with that seriously? hunt geese in stealth mode.

Where gun control is now, well in my state I like it, the rules are resonable for us law abiding people.

The whole problem is gun laws are ment to keep guns out of criminals hands. Well the name criminal comes from the fact that they dont fucking obey the law. Can you guys understand the oxi-moron?

The fact is... if someone how they tried to ban guns all together.. I wouldnt stop packing.. I hope you wouldnt either.



I'm not a hunter nor will I ever be but If I was I'd be using an AR15 semi auto rifle. It's practically an assault rifle. I fail to see why it couldn't be used for hunting :shrug:


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There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: hpi]
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I don't understand everyone who say me not needing one is a good enough reason to stop me from having them. If I have no record of mental illness or violence, just the fact that I want one should be enough.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Redstorm]
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People don't hunt with assault rifles. Why? They don't have enough stopping power!

The reasons to ban them are all based on fear mongering and conjecture, and for dems to appease the hippies.


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: hpi]
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hpi said:
BoneMan said:
How dare you call me a god damn hippy!?



You fucking goddamned hippy.





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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Green_T]
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green_titan said:
People don't hunt with assault rifles. Why? They don't have enough stopping power!




bullshit, I have a friend that exclusively hunts with an SKS, I
have hunted with my AR-15, the AR-10 is chambered in .308 and
there's thousands of others out there that do hunt with these
rifles, they're not under powered and if you know how to shoot
you'll take a deer with one shot

these images arent meant to be disturbing, they're to prove a point














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The reasons to ban them are all based on fear mongering and conjecture, and for dems to appease the hippies.




I found it rather shocking that Nancy Pelosi has decided to
stand against this new ban, citing the same reasoning I've
always had, the laws we have are fine, we just need to enforce
them, congress is writing all these laws for nothing more than
to justify their existence in washington

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-tosses-cold-water-on-reviving-assault-weapon-ban-2009-02-26.html

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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How about this one.:shocked:

65 Democrat House Members sign letter opposing a new AWB 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iadNpLRYIc0TsbKQg9DVDevMwynwD970ME800

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: buckwheat]
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what the hell is wrong with the democrats, are they starting to
realize that government is getting too big and may need to be
scaled back?


check this out

http://www.vbs.tv/full_screen.php?s=DGFE2305DC&sc=1363196

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Green_T]
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green_titan said:
People don't hunt with assault rifles. Why? They don't have enough stopping power!

The reasons to ban them are all based on fear mongering and conjecture, and for dems to appease the hippies.



Dude yes they do.

Besides, you could use cop killers ( armor piercing ) to go hunting if you want to.


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Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!


There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





4-Methyl-Aminorex

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: hpi]
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schnoodlemitzen


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: pookiehead]
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obama knocked on my door this morning and took all my guns :frown:




He even took guitar hero :sad:


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: I AM SWIM]
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i can't understand people who think there should be a ban on assault weapons. pot is illegal, shrooms are illegal, can you guys still get them and use them? yeah. regardless of the 2nd ammendment, or the weapons being dangerous, or civilians not needing them, or protecting ourselves from corrupt government, a ban doesn't do JACK SHIT! you should all know that first hand. make something illegal the only thing it does is make it so only criminals have it and criminals make shit loads of money on it. if you think there should be a ban on weapons you must support criminals.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: I AM SWIM]
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Gun control will only hurt the law abiders. My ex and i got in a simple arguement, she called the cops, now I have a misdemeanor DV. I cant even go by a .22!!! I have to hunt bow and arrow now. And it going to be damn hard to protect myself with a bow.  But felons that get out of jail can get thier rights back and go buy a 30-06.

Fuck all you liberals and law hungry retards. Any laws you try to pass will not keep the guns away from those who use them for wrong! It only hurts the true Americans!

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: dalorean88]
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dalorean88 said:
Gun control will only hurt the law abiders. My ex and i got in a simple arguement, she called the cops, now I have a misdemeanor DV. I cant even go by a .22!!! I have to hunt bow and arrow now. And it going to be damn hard to protect myself with a bow.  But felons that get out of jail can get thier rights back and go buy a 30-06.

Fuck all you liberals and law hungry retards. Any laws you try to pass will not keep the guns away from those who use them for wrong! It only hurts the true Americans!



i don't know if its different in other places, but in Oregon a felon can never own a gun as long as they have a felony on their record, which will be forever unless its a Class C felony

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: dalorean88]
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dalorean88 said:
Gun control will only hurt the law abiders. My ex and i got in a simple arguement, she called the cops, now I have a misdemeanor DV.



that's fucked up, if your DV charge were a felony I could
understand the restriction, it may not be a bad idea to appeal
this if you can afford to do so, I dont believe in putting you
in further jeopardy by telling you to buy one through a private
sale because in the instance that you ever had to use it there
is no way you'd get anything less than manslaughter in addition
to several firearms charges, my brother is in the same boat but
he has a felony for killing his TV, my ex wife tried it with me
and it was her that was going to be arrested instead of me, at
my request they didnt take her for the welfare of the kids in
that situation


look at the statistics and you'll see that it's cops that are
largely the perpetrators of crimes like domestic violence, a
surprising 40% has been reported, most departments have no
policy regarding DV against officers and 20% departments will
terminate the officer after a second charge allowing the cop to
retain his rights and his guns

http://www.womenandpolicing.org/violenceFS.asp

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: psilyguy]
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The deal is, when a felon has served his sentence, he has the oportunity to get his civil rights back, because you lose those rights when convicted. But with a misdemeanor, you don't lose your civil rights, so you cant get back what you already have. But this DV law that a LIBERAL passed states you lose all rights to the 2nd amendment if charged for a misdemeanor DV. Now the bullshit part is my ex and I wanted charges dropped, but the STATE charged us, cuz ARIZONA is a shitty state to live in, and are "cracking down" on DV.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: psilyguy]
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psilyguy said:
i don't know if its different in other places, but in Oregon a felon can never own a gun as long as they have a felony on their record, which will be forever unless its a Class C felony



the ATF used to issue a 'relief of disability' waiver, I
obtained a class 1 FFL under that waiver, I was one of the last,
the felony still appeared on my record and it caused a lot of
hassle every time I was stopped, I obtained my CCW permit with
that felony still there, it took twice as long as normal but
because of the waiver, the FBI check and a  lengthy
interview with the judge it was granted, about 4 years ago I
finally had my record expunged


thanks to coaster I found this

http://www.hulu.com/watch/25712/30-days-gun-nation#s-p1-so-i0

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Thanks prisoner that was a cool flick. Strange how ppl grow up. I think if everyone was raised with at least gun knowledge and basic handling, viewpoints would be better. Maybe gun handling should be tought in schools.

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