Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9889860 -

Also, with my incubator, I have drilled 1/2" holes in the top of the lid taped with micropore medical tape to allow air flow...  IMO, I think you're fine with using an incubator, i've been doing it for a while with no problem, just keep an eye on 'em, if you notice a jar developing trich or other contams, remove and discard it.


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious] * 1
    #9889881 -

Here's an article relating. (Has to do with a specific, non-mushroom fungi, but it's the same idea.)
Quote:
Demonstrations of circadian rhythms are widespread, and in the fungi the clock has been shown to control daily rhythms in spore development and liberation.



http://medind.nic.in/imvw/imvw13601.html

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: wiggles]
    #9889894 -

wiggles said:
If you're growing at 60 just be extra careful about sterility. Slower colonization time = more time for opportunistic molds to take hold of substrate.




Yea but it also slows molds down.


--------------------
Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: budmanman]
    #9889905 -

Practically kills bacteria too. I don't know of too much bacteria that thrives in 60* temps.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9889992 -

RogerRabbit said:
Sometimes that's true, but often it indicates jars colonizing in a closed space.  Even on an open shelf, if I get trich in one jar and don't notice it right away, the jars immediately around it often get infected a few days later.  No jar filter is perfect, and if you have a massive spore release, it easily overwhelms even the best filter material.  That's why I recommend colonizing out in the open.

In addition, stale air in a box leads to anaerobic conditions, which promote bacteria.  Furthermore, mushroom mycelium has circadian rhythms, thus having them on an open shelf exposes the mycelium to a day-night schedule of light and temperature fluctuations which helps establish the pattern for later, resulting in a better fruiting performance when the time comes.
RR



If i am incubating in a container, should i be worried about all of my jars being contaminated? And i saw in your video RR how you keep them on an open shelf, does it have to be in a generally dark area, or would any room or pantry do?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9890023 -

I'm seeing that the general consensus is that in open area is better for colonization... but I will tell you from my personal experience, that incubation in an incubator with holes drilled in the top so air doesn't get stagnant, has worked 100% fine for me.


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9890071 -

I wonder after RR jars start to colonize if he puts them in a container at that point. Doesnt the light make the mycelium start to pin in the later stages?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9890115 -

yeah, you'll get invitro pins but that doesn't really hurt anything.  If you're doing brf tek, just brush 'em off before you dunk the cakes.


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9890164 -

Gotcha. So i guess letting your jars colonize on a shelf in a room of some sort is fine too, as far as being in a lit area? Are contaminants a big worry if they are out in the open, say even if you have tyvek or something over the lids?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9890188 -

contaminants are always a big worry :smile:  either way is fine IMO


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9895146 -

I want to try just having a couple of shelves to set my jars on, but i am affraid of contaminant. I also live in a small apartment, so i am thinking a tub in the closet will be my best bet. Thanks

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9895344 -

Contaminants are MORE of a worry in a box and that's why I've posted a few hundred times against using them.  You also WANT to expose to light, and light does NOT cause pinning in the jars. Light becomes a pinning trigger after the jars are exposed to fresh air.  If growing brf tek, DON'T scrape pins off that may have formed before you dunk.  They'll grow fine.  If they abort later, pick them.
RR


--------------------
Download Let's Grow Mushrooms



semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat

"I've never had a failed experiment.  I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work."
Thomas Edison

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9895375 -

Thanks for the info RR. I guess maybee ill do a little bit of both, to see what fits the conditions of my apartment. But the first time i saw your video a few months back, ive been curious about putting them on a shelf out in the open. I wish i would of subscribed to this site earlier. Thanks again

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9897453 -

I was more thinking that mold and bacteria have a hard time under 60.  Could there be any benefit in colonizing at these temperatures?


--------------------
I'm Just Making This All Up.
Grains In Glass Jars With Professional Filters FTW.
Coir Monotubs FTW.
Sterile Technique FTW.
Fan dry, Desiccant storage FTW.
Ralphster's Spores FTW.

Mushroom Cloud - Dirtball

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9897537 -

Under 60?  P. Cubensis would have a hard time colonizing in that temp.  I tried colonizing in 50-55degrees once during the summer season. I was getting waves of bacteria infections, a while ago using BRF because it was 90degrees and I never put my ac on, so I put them in a mini-fridge on the warmest setting, 55degrees... There were a couple jars that didn't do anything, a couple that stalled after colonizing a little, and the rest took so long to spread, I eventually moved them to a warmer area.


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9897550 -

ok i get it


--------------------
I'm Just Making This All Up.
Grains In Glass Jars With Professional Filters FTW.
Coir Monotubs FTW.
Sterile Technique FTW.
Fan dry, Desiccant storage FTW.
Ralphster's Spores FTW.

Mushroom Cloud - Dirtball

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9897631 -

What tek are you using and what are you using to sterilize your jars with, PC or Stove Pot?

If you're anywhere near the northeast, this is the perfect time to grow p.cubensis indoors. I usually don't get any contaminations until summer time.  When it's cold outside and my house is only 65 degrees, I usually don't see any.

I colonize at 74-79 degrees in a ventilated Incubation chamber,  and fruit at 60-69 degrees during this part of the year and I get pretty decent results.


--------------------


Friend- "Dude, A lot of people thought you were a snob in High School"

ME- "What? I didn't even talk to those people"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: mozartvicious]
    #9897915 -

sorry for asking these questions on your thread man.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: MEEZIE]
    #9899700 -

Its cool, I've thread jacked my fair few..

And my grow isn't at low temps, i was just wondering because molds have trouble at low temperatures.  i was sort of thinking you could try to get an isolate (it might take a while and a very long time) that thrives in low temperatures and beat out any contamination issues.
Maybe even genetically modify them.


--------------------
I'm Just Making This All Up.
Grains In Glass Jars With Professional Filters FTW.
Coir Monotubs FTW.
Sterile Technique FTW.
Fan dry, Desiccant storage FTW.
Ralphster's Spores FTW.

Mushroom Cloud - Dirtball

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Which mushrooms can grow neer or under 60 F? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9899745 -

RedDevil420 said:
Its cool, I've thread jacked my fair few..

And my grow isn't at low temps, i was just wondering because molds have trouble at low temperatures.  i was sort of thinking you could try to get an isolate (it might take a while and a very long time) that thrives in low temperatures and beat out any contamination issues.
Maybe even genetically modify them.



Lots of posts on the genetics in the adv. myco section. If you're not really into biology/genetics, It's gonna be a bit difficult to understand though.

Isolates which thrive at a lower temp will also thrive at the species normal temp. Just happens to not be effected by the lowering. Also most medicinal species are able to overcome contams. They won't stop 'contam issues' though, which is to say you still may start to see contams growing. To prevent this, you need sterile technique and FAST colonizing isolates. They will eat the substrate before the contamination has a chance to get a foothold.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 |  [ show all ]

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* mushrooms growing in cannabis cloning chamber cannabisdreams 1,892 2 07/25/02 03:13 PM
by Killa420
* is it okay to dunk cakes with mushrooms growing? venora 8,105 7 07/10/02 02:09 PM
by Hippie3
* Will Mushrooms Grow like This ? Anonymous 1,286 15 08/09/20 09:14 PM
by Pastywhyte
* Deleted
( 1 2 all )
Jared 9,924 38 07/15/10 11:00 PM
by RogerRabbit
* supermarket mushroom grow kit CheshirePhat 2,520 5 02/18/02 02:13 PM
by ShroomNewb
* Mushroom grow kit insane_blaine 3,963 11 06/28/02 08:34 PM
by TM
* Mushrooms growing strangly on casing surface vader 1,683 2 06/14/02 12:36 PM
by vader
* Re: Does anybody know a good mushroom (grow) store in amsterdam? CLuB99 1,420 1 01/05/00 05:43 PM
by mjshroomer

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
3,320 topic views. 15 members, 83 guests and 83 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.039 seconds spending 0.013 seconds on 18 queries.