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Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police
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(CNET) -- Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of Wi-Fi access points, even hotels, local coffee shops, and home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations.

The legislation, which echoes a measure proposed by one of their Democratic colleagues three years ago, would impose unprecedented data retention requirements on a broad swath of Internet access providers and is certain to draw fire from businesses and privacy advocates.
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Two bills have been introduced so far--S.436 in the Senate and H.R.1076 in the House. Each of the companion bills is titled "Internet Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth Act," or Internet Safety Act.

Each contains the same language: "A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service shall retain for a period of at least two years all records or other information pertaining to the identity of a user of a temporarily assigned network address the service assigns to that user."

Translated, the Internet Safety Act applies not just to AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, and so on--but also to the tens of millions of homes with Wi-Fi access points or wired routers that use the standard method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses. (That method is called Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, or DHCP.)

"Everyone has to keep such information," says Albert Gidari, a partner at the Perkins Coie law firm in Seattle who specializes in this area of electronic privacy law.

The legal definition of electronic communication service is "any service which provides to users thereof the ability to send or receive wire or electronic communications." The U.S. Justice Department's position is that any service "that provides others with means of communicating electronically" qualifies.

That sweeps in not just public Wi-Fi access points, but password-protected ones too, and applies to individuals, small businesses, large corporations, libraries, schools, universities, and even government agencies. Voice over IP services may be covered too.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/20/internet.records.bill/index.html


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: dark1313star]
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You bastard.

I already posted this.  Look at the related threads.

But I'm glad it got posted again, people should see it.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: DragonChaser]
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sorry, I did a search and didn't see it


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: dark1313star]
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Wonderful, more civil liberties being taken away.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: dark1313star]
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We need a constitutional amendment to protect the internet at this point, I think.  Shit, look at Australia and the UK and China.

Grim times, folks.  Not to mention this is just ridiculous.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: circularvortex]
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If it catches pedo's I'm for it.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: Abuse]
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Slippery, slippery slope man.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: circularvortex]
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hmm so I'm supposed to keep a log of IPs on my wireless network :shiftyeyes:


I understand what this would entail, but people like my neighbor, with his unprotected "linksys" network - are not going to be doing this :lol:

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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: Abuse]
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Abuse said:
If it catches pedo's I'm for it.


Thats the thing, I don't think it would.

I think it would bring people who visit websites that are deemed to be subversive to the governments control, sites that spread info deemed contrary to what the government says, into the sights of the government.  People like us.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: DragonChaser]
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The golden age isn't going to go on forever.

They want control of information, some countries are already implementing countrywide control over info.

I can see a backlash of uncontrolled servers from the more rogue countries.  A bit like the days of dial-up bulletin boards.

Cyber-war.

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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: Ego Death]
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Yeah this is a bunch of bullshit, but how could we expect uncontrolled internet to last. Things are looking grim in every aspect and I believe they are only going to get worse.

This makes me want to start archiving the all of the important teks from the shroomery on my computer, because it might not be around forever.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: circularvortex]
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circularvortex said:
Slippery, slippery slope man.



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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: dark1313star]
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dark1313star said:
sorry, I did a search and didn't see it


lol, it's on the front page of the Pub, like.... 13 threads down.

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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
The golden age isn't going to go on forever.


yeah I know what you mean.  And this torrent stuff letting us download dvd movies for free in 30 min isn't going to last forever either I bet.


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Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police [Re: memes]
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meams said:
dark1313star said:
sorry, I did a search and didn't see it


lol, it's on the front page of the Pub, like.... 13 threads down.


now it is... when DragonChaser brought it to my attention, it was on page 3 :tongue:


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