Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Science and Technology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Darcho]
    #5223863 -

I don't understand it but I'm interested in it.

But if we really want to get picky we can say we don't understand anything because no matter how simple something appears on the surface there's always greater degrees of complexity underneath. Whether it be abstract or not. I don't believe it's impossible to have a firm handle on quantum physics, or as much as is known about it at this point. But there are admittedly some points that are obscure, and that's not the fault of the person trying to understand as it is the fault of the inability for quantum mechanics to explain everything. Bring on the Unifying Theories!


--------------------
You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.
-- Booker T. Washington

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9734517 -

Madtowntripper said:
Heh, I go to school at the University of Wisconsin, alot of my friends are Phsyicists here, where we have one of the best Physics departments in the country.

I can tell you, from having them blow my mind many times when twisted on drugs, that they know what they are talking about.

Honestly, I'm a Geophysics student, I'm prett smart.  But when these guys start talking about Cosmology and Universal Origins, my mind is completely blown.    Most of the stuff that they can say is true, having tested it, is stuff that I lose after 5 minutes of conversation.

I can talk about structural geology and the origins of the Earth intelligently, but these guys are on a whole 'nother level, with particles and shit I've never heard of.


I'm going to have to disagree, MIT has an excellent Physics department, probably a hell of a lot better than Wisconsin, not to say that you don't have a great one, but that's a little arrogant and ignorant.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Nicci]
    #9734790 -

No one fully understands it. Some understand more than others but what they know may be wrong. Is matter made of solid objects or of energy? Just the answer to that question will set off a long debate which has not yet been settled.


--------------------
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Nicci]
    #9734994 -

Nicci said:
I'm going to have to disagree, MIT has an excellent Physics department, probably a hell of a lot better than Wisconsin, not to say that you don't have a great one, but that's a little arrogant and ignorant.


MIT's physics department is irrelevant.  Wisconsin DOES have one of the best physics programs in the nation.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Nicci]
    #9735237 -

Nicci said:
Madtowntripper said:
Heh, I go to school at the University of Wisconsin, alot of my friends are Phsyicists here, where we have one of the best Physics departments in the country.

I can tell you, from having them blow my mind many times when twisted on drugs, that they know what they are talking about.

Honestly, I'm a Geophysics student, I'm prett smart.  But when these guys start talking about Cosmology and Universal Origins, my mind is completely blown.    Most of the stuff that they can say is true, having tested it, is stuff that I lose after 5 minutes of conversation.

I can talk about structural geology and the origins of the Earth intelligently, but these guys are on a whole 'nother level, with particles and shit I've never heard of.


I'm going to have to disagree, MIT has an excellent Physics department, probably a hell of a lot better than Wisconsin, not to say that you don't have a great one, but that's a little arrogant and ignorant.


I never said MIT was not a better school than Wisconsin.

I did say we have one of the best programs in the country, which is unequivocally true; you can ask anyone.

I'm not sure what part of what I said you consider ignorant or arrogant, because I don't think it is either.




--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: DieCommie]
    #9736150 -

> Wisconsin DOES have one of the best physics programs in the nation.

They don't make the top ten list for physics programs that have produced research papers that have been cited by other research papers (from other schools).  MIT comes in at #9 on that list.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Seuss]
    #9736193 -

So only the top ten are among the 'best in the nation'?  I wouldn't say that's the case.  There are probably ~150 Physics PhD programs in the nation - they are probably in the top 10-15% of that.  From what I recall they are in the top ten for plasma/fusion research, and their other sub-fields are also not to shabby.

Edited by Qubit (02/04/09 08:48 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: DieCommie]
    #9736296 -

> So only the top ten are among the 'best in the nation'?

That is the criteria that I set, so yes.  :smile:

I'm not saying that they are bad, but when I hear somebody talk about a top physics department in the US, Wisconsin is not one that comes to mind.  (They are much better than the physics department at the university that I attended; I'm not trying to slam them, just being real.)


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Seuss]
    #9736316 -

Quote:
Seuss said:
I'm not trying to slam them,


Stop Knocking My School!

:hissyfit:


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: DieCommie]
    #9736332 -

Ack, double post...

At phds.org, they come in 24th out of 179.

> Stop Knocking My School!

Heh... for physics, my school didn't even make the top 100.  :grin:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Anyone who claims they understand quantum physics....... [Re: Seuss]
    #9742159 -

It all depends on your definition of "understanding" and "good school/university".
I can't say I understand quantum mechanics, but I do know I understand it better than my mother.
My university is decent in international rankings, while I think it uses very stupid and old fashioned learning methods. I don't consider it a good university, but I do think the students that graduate are ok. If you make it through all the stuff they want you to do while they can't communicate or learn you anything, you have to be good :smirk:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

General Interest > Science and Technology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* String Theory and Quantum Physics.
( 1 2 all )		 ergot 5,447 24 01/03/04 03:02 AM
by MarioNett
* Huston, we have a problem. AnnoA 1,299 11 04/20/03 01:20 PM
by Seuss
* United States Air Force Teleportation Physics Study Frappy 772 2 11/29/04 05:10 PM
by Frappy
* Quantum computing via true randomness Somaism 1,171 2 03/31/06 06:17 AM
by Herbus
* quantum computers automanM 965 2 01/30/05 06:48 PM
by SneezingPenis
* Oscillators made from quantum fluctuation or casimir effect trendalM 972 4 09/15/04 02:51 AM
by Randolph_Carter
* I want a better understanding of Chemistry...
( 1 2 all )		 PDU 4,789 23 10/16/03 04:47 PM
by doktor_alternate
* Help with some simple physics problems
( 1 2 all )		 blacksabbathrulz 5,720 20 01/21/05 09:43 AM
by Seuss

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: trendal, automan, Northerner
5,599 topic views. 0 members, 2 guests and 48 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 17 queries.