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String Theory and Quantum Physics.
    #2150022 - 12/01/03 07:00 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I am looking for recommendations of books in both subjects. Also, any other book that tries to explain the universe and also may tie in alternate dimensions, consciousness, etc.

Thanks!


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ergot]
    #2150145 - 12/01/03 07:41 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I figure this must be intended for the science forum.

Any book that tries to relate string theory etc, to conciousness is going to be full of shit. People hardly know what conciousness is, let alone how it relates to the nature of the universe.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Phluck]
    #2150400 - 12/01/03 09:00 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I think we should leave this here for a little bit, see what people have to suggest regarding "to explain the universe and also may tie in alternate dimensions, consciousness, etc."

As far as the string theory and quantum physics, this thread will most likely be moved soon to Science and Tech forum.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2150473 - 12/01/03 09:27 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

maybe even s&p, string theory has been discussed in there quite a bit as well...


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: adrug]
    #2150505 - 12/01/03 09:41 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

the only book i ever read on string theory was "hyperspace" by, michio kaku. it's a few years old but i liked it. kinda heavy on the metaphors though.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ergot]
    #2150587 - 12/01/03 10:16 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

read The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene. it's a great book on string theory.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Clean]
    #2150744 - 12/01/03 11:32 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

It's a big long documentary about string theory. It's based on the book by Brian Greene you mentioned.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Phluck]
    #2151439 - 12/02/03 11:35 AM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Do a google on John Haeglen


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: eve69]
    #2152550 - 12/02/03 07:10 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

moved from MA&L


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2152561 - 12/02/03 07:12 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

moved from S&P :smirk:


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ergot]
    #2152700 - 12/02/03 08:06 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene
The Holotropic Mind by Stanislav Grof
The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot
The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra


The first book deals with string theory.
The second and third tie science to mysticism and alternate dimensions and consciousness.
The fourth book ties mysticism to the broader aspect of physics.

Good luck on your journey.

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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ergot]
    #2162185 - 12/05/03 05:46 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Schroedinger's Cat, by Robert Anton Wilson :smile:

String theory isn't mentioned, but quantum mechanics are discussed throughout.

"The Most Scientific of all Science Fiction novels" 


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: toxick]
    #2166281 - 12/07/03 01:05 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

you can download that 3 hour Nova special on strings theory (The Elegant Universe Hosted by Brian Greene)encoded in divx at suprnova.org if youre hip to the bit torrent scene.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: gir]
    #2168099 - 12/08/03 04:39 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

You mean Effeminate Universe? :smirk:

That guy made me uncomfortable. I prefer my physics a little more straight.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2168803 - 12/08/03 01:05 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

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You mean Effeminate Universe? :smirk:

That guy made me uncomfortable. I prefer my physics a little more straight.



LOL!


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: gir]
    #2168940 - 12/08/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

It's like a cross between "Cosmos", and "Gay Tap-Dancing Hour".


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2197084 - 12/23/03 03:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I thought that brian greene program on pbs was excellent. It made it so easy to understand. I think that we are heading in the right direction.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ergot]
    #2202865 - 12/26/03 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have a quantum physics question.

the position and velocity of a particle cannot be precisely known... we measure these things in terms of tendencies and probabilities.

my question is... is it that a particle hasn't actually got a real precise position and velocity at any given moment, or is it just that because of nature of the act of observing one, we just cannot know what they are?

or is it both?


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ]
    #2202885 - 12/26/03 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

my question is... is it that a particle hasn't actually got a real precise position and velocity at any given moment, or is it just that because of nature of the act of observing one, we just cannot know what they are?

I think most physicists today think that the particle actually does not have a specified position/velocity...it's not just that we can't measure it. This is called the Copenhagen Interpretation, as it is the interpretation of quantum physics that came out of...you guessed it!...Copenhagen :smirk:

Personally, I think it's a false interpretation. Just because we don't know specifically where a particle is or where it is going (due to our measurement) doesn't mean it isn't specific.


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Re: String Theory and Quantum Physics. [Re: ]
    #2202905 - 12/26/03 11:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think we are trying to interpret an infinite situation with finite qualities of understanding.

As long as we pretend this is not the case we will continue to experience/observe contradictory information. It is this information that exists between our modes of understanding, of course it makes no sense, because we have no sense to understand it.

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