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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: AgingHippy]
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I have a Canon 450D (XSI) and love it.  The lens it comes with is image stabilized so you can take better pictures in low light.  While it is an adequate lens, I would highly suggest purchasing an additional lens.  Canon makes a very cheap lens called the "nifty fifty" or the "thrifty fifty".  It runs about $80 online and takes great pics.  It is excellent for shots where the subject is in focus while the background is blurry.

Whatever you choose, stepping up to an SLR will make a world of difference in your pictures. 

Here is a GREAT site to read up on your choices as well as photo techniques.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: RemainRandom50]
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I got a Sony A200 in July, my first DSLR camera to learn on.

It was about $500 with what is supposed to be an above average kit lens. The rap on the camera is that it may not work as well well in low light as some Ca(nikon) models and things like that.

Also the selection of lenses is smaller and less professional in terms of use by 'pros' and whomever, since you are buying into a "system", as they say. In terms of not having as many lenses, I figure I'm not anywhere close to being serious enough or having enough money to be dropping hundreds and/or thousands of dollars on more lenses. A few good deals and I'm set with 2-3 lenses in the future.

My rationale was that I was only learning about DSLR and wanted bang for the buck. Without an expert eye, it is hard to distinguish minute differences in all the entry level to mid-grade DSLR's so I got this one.
The A200 is a fine camera and I've taken some cool pics with it. I have since bought two used Minolta lenses which are fantastic. The community of Minolta photographers appreciating the Sony brand seems to be quite alive and there are many fine products to be enjoyed.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Velvet Waltz]
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Fuck yeah those work great. Before Christmas, I either wanted to get the new Pentax or Canon Rebel XS. I got the Canon Rebel XS instead and it works fucking great..also a great deal...what matters most about taking pictures is the pixels in your camera, and in range from 300 to 600 at least

Mine's got a stabilizer too I love how I can handle this safely without dropping it, obviously because I'm more careful than stupid anymore. PM me to check out the awesome pics I took from Boulder CO and such :smile: I'm very comfortable with it's features


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: IR0NHYM0N]
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IR0NHYM0N said:
what matters most about taking pictures is the pixels in your camera

true photography requires some skill and a good eye, not just a large image size


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: AgingHippy]
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teefizzle said:
IR0NHYM0N said:
what matters most about taking pictures is the pixels in your camera

true photography requires some skill and a good eye, not just a large image size


Actually what matters the most is the quality of the sensor chip (CCD or CMOS) that is being used in the camera. A lot of companies out there are jacking up the megapixels in the cameras with cheap, shitastic image sensors. Big shitty sensor = big shitty pics. Higher megapixels, at least with some brands, has turned into a marketing ploy because everyone thinks OH! MOAR MEGA PIXZLE IS GOODS! ... Neg.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Gumby]
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bullshit, the sensor doesn't make a good photo

framing, composition, focus, lighting, and other aspects dependent on the photographer (not the camera), these all make a quality image

we aren't robots


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: AgingHippy]
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I'm talking image quality, not composition and all that stuff. You can have a great photographer with a ton of skill, then you hand him a shitty camera with a shitty sensor and you're going to get a shitty picture that could have been a lot better.

BTW: I am a robot.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Gumby]
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do you talk in monotone?

give me a shitty camera and i bet i can get a good photo out of it if you let me use photoshop


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: AgingHippy]
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No, I vary my pitch at random. Sounds kinda like R2D2 if he could speak English.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Gumby]
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:lol: \


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: AgingHippy]
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the glass and the censor is the most important thing. You can have a 10,000$ camera but ifyou are using a 50$ lens you will get shotty pics. You dont need an expensive camera to take 'sick' pics. My mom has a nice olympuss point and shoot and she always wants to update each year, silly consumerism at its finest. Her camera takes awesome pictures, I use a canon xti and it takes great pics, just remember its equally about the lenses you use that it is about the body, and finally about how you use those tools.


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: snoot]
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Pentax is getting better and releasing lenses with hypersonic motors too.  They also have image stabilizing built into the sensor instead of the lenses, which can be much more cost effective, considering stabilized lenses cost a fortune.

Check out Nikon, Canon and Pentax.


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Maverick]
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the best stabilizer is a steady head and a sturdy tree. I enjoy technology but I hate to depend on it, good technique would produce great pictures.


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Maverick]
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Just won a nikon d40x with 18-55 lens brand new on ebay for 350usd.

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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: CCBIGGS]
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before you buy a camera take a real close look at the battery compartment. 

1. make sure it uses batterys and not a manufactorers sellout bullshit you won't be able to buy in a couple years.

2.  look really really close at how the battery door closes and seals shut.  this is the weakest point on a camera and deserves your upmost attention.

I was all gunhoe about nikon when i purchased my first digital camera 990 coolpix.  the thing rocked, and still puts alot of camera's to shame even today(8+ years) and its only 3.34 mega pixels.

however nikon is a shitty company as i have found out within the past few years.  they design many of there camera's to fail.  they design the battery doors with cheap plastic, and these little tiny pieces hold the batterys in.  and even worse, instead of springs they use hard metal fins for the batterys to sit on....so when you close the door for it to shut all the way you really have to push....and when you lock the door shut all the pressure is pushing on those little plastic pieces.

anyways nikon has a long run of designing camera's this way far as i can tell.  and anyone with half a brain would know it would fail while they were designing it...hence they are ps'ofs.  but if you can find a new nikon that is designed right then go for it.

but i myself am boycotting those basterds for as long as im in the camera market, i paid $1000 for my camera there shouldn't be bullshit like that happening.....and they sure as hell shouldn't be charging people $200 to fix it with the same part!!!


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: Maverick]
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DRTMaverick said:
Pentax is getting better and releasing lenses with hypersonic motors too.  They also have image stabilizing built into the sensor instead of the lenses, which can be much more cost effective, considering stabilized lenses cost a fortune.

Check out Nikon, Canon and Pentax.

that's why i bought my k100d (the stabilizer)


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Re: Digital SLR Cameras [Re: snoot]
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snoot said:
the best stabilizer is a steady head and a sturdy tree. I enjoy technology but I hate to depend on it, good technique would produce great pictures.


IS is generally turned off, but sometimes your 'steady hand' or 'steady tree' or 'rock on the ground' just won't cut it for the proper angle of what you are trying to photograph without any blur.

Saying that using optical stabilization, lens or sensor based is something that makes you less of a photographer is like saying good photographers never use a tripod.

Stabilization is something that helps eliminate the need for a Tripod in many situations.  The use of IS has nothing to do with technique, using it neither decreases or increases your skill as a photographer, it is just another tool like a tripod.  You can be an excellent photographer and have an excellent eye, but not be able to steady your lens well if you've got a 500mm lens and don't have the time to attach a tripod (i.e. wildlife photography).


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