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OfflinebruisedBlue
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1st time casing strategy........
    #934834 - 10/05/02 05:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

OK, In an ongoing lucid dream I've been having, I plan to make my first two casings using either 50/50+ or straight verm...perhaps one of each.
This is what i'm thinkin........

The prepared casings (foil covered) will be placed into an opaque rubbermaid and elevated above a layer of water warmed by a fishtank heater for incubation at about 86 degrees.
I use a similar heated water method for incubation of my PF jars. But, in my jar incubator, the humidity is so high that when i take off the lid I hve to shake it for like 10 seconds to get all the water off. So my concern is this: will this sort of humidity be too high for incubating casings?? Will a casing colonize decently at 76-78 degrees instead(if i didn't incubate it at all)?
Alright, so, once these casings are ready to initiate pinning, I plan to place them in a container with perlite humidification at about 76-78 degrees. Sound good? I know this is basic stuff and I appreciate help from all you mad mycologists out there!

ps: Using yipi lais, what might yield better results: straight verm, 50/50+, or some other casing layer?


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: bruisedBlue]
    #934930 - 10/05/02 06:33 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

sTREIGHT vERM FOR YOUR FIRST TIME.


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: bruisedBlue]
    #936399 - 10/06/02 01:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

50/50+ is the shit my uncle's rabbits hamster uses it on the top and bottom of the substrate with great results never had any contam problems. incubate at 85 and before he knew it they were ready to cold shock.
-shroomshaman


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: shroomshaman]
    #937037 - 10/06/02 06:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I recommend 50/50+. Straight verm is pretty crappy in my experience.


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: bruisedBlue]
    #937075 - 10/06/02 07:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

50/50+, with a few % coir added works great for the raccoon. 6T  :tongue:


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: bruisedBlue]
    #937127 - 10/06/02 07:21 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

As long as the casing isn't getting water logged, it is OK to incubate this way (at temps around 85 degrees F) until you are ready to initiate pinning. Then you should drop the temps around ten degrees and introduce air exchange/light/etc.
Using different types of casings is a good way to learn about the strengths and weaknesses of each of them. Coir/Verm/50-50+ would make for good comparisons.


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: SixTango]
    #937219 - 10/06/02 07:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

50/50+, with a few % coir added works great for the raccoon. 



Shouldn't 50/50+ be almost 50% coir?  :tongue:
 


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: zeta]
    #937242 - 10/06/02 08:08 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

50/50+ originaly refers to a mixture of 10 parts peat, 10 parts vermiculite, around 1 part hydrated lime(I recommend crushed limestone though) and water.
By volume that is.


Edited by Anno (10/06/02 08:08 PM)


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Re: 1st time casing strategy........ [Re: zeta]
    #937312 - 10/06/02 08:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Anno speaks the truth.

The raccoon simply grabs whatever is handy to measure equal volume with, like a large plastic cup.

Then adds 10 cups of peat, 10 cups of verm, one cup of fine ground high calcuim limestone & one cup of already hydrated coir. Then adds water (he preboiled & cooled to room temp) to hydrate it to the point it is moist. But not so moist that without squeezing like superman, you can squeeze out a drop of moisture.

The reason the raccoon adds the small percent of coir, is that at least in his experiance, it seemed to promote a more even rise of myc to the casing surface.

In other words, it seems the myc will colonize up & through the coir quicker than the normal 50/50+ casing mix. Leading to a more even spread of hypal knots that develope from myc reaching the surface. Which, often results in an even pin set.

The raccoon has also found that all ground or powdered limestone is not equal in buffering power. So, if you have the means? Test the pH of your prepared casing mix.

The raccoon also pasturizes the casing mix moist -- to be on the safe side.

He feels that also gives the buffering agent time to do its job, before application. If the pasturizing takes a little moisture out of the mix. He simply adds some more water with a spray bottle, until he thinks it is right.

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