------------------
A Rose, In Boredom Grows, And Breaks Me of My Minds Conviction, 1000 breaths, smoke as life, speak soft of souls vindiction.

It can totally kill the trip.

People need to realize that each person has a totally different trip and talking about what you are feeling at that point is not a good idea, unless you are really connected to the person at the point, and you are on the same mind level.

------------------
"Shapes and colors shift with mood,
pupils widen and change thier hue."
-- Alice In Chains (Frogs)
---(-)---
"Is your hair as dull and lifeless
as your brain? Didn't work start at 9?
Where's your shirt? Did you even remember
to wear it? I know you. I used to be you.
Until I discovered Chambraigne."

------------------
A Rose, In Boredom Grows, And Breaks Me of My Minds Conviction, 1000 breaths, smoke as life, speak soft of souls vindiction.

Since I'm a minor, my parents had to come and get me. The staff fed them all this misinformation claiming that I had "ODed" on mushrooms and the "damage" that they could cause to my body. Well, the next time I trip (which won't be antime soon :-() I plan to be very vocal and to make sure that the people I trip with know what to expect.

Sometimes though, I do agree that talking isn't necessary. Like when BEing with a tree, and it's little shadow disciples.

When you use shrooms for self-exploration in innately leads INWARD...away from the outside world. Letting go of one's need to interact...to speak, to jump around, to generally have a 'good' time...actually impedes instrospection.

The easiest way to imagine what I'm talking about is imagine the 5 levels of tripping as like planes upon which your mind walks. Levels 1-3 are easily attained by chemical means...they take no concentration to maintain...and these are typically the levels that joy-trippers stay within; they have no want or desire to go beyond level 3 (because levels 4 & 5 are real 'wierd'). At the same dosages that would typically bring our joy-tripping friends to level 3 or possibly even 4 sometimes...the introvert realizes that by concentrating inwards...he can actually deepen the trip. By Letting Go...you go deeper. On the same dosages that bring my friends blissfully ignorant to level 3...I can concentrate and reach level 4! The shrooms provide me with the doorway, but I must walk through...I must actually work my way further and beyond. And nothing kills the journey as quickly and easily as someone OUT THERE demanding you interact with them in some pointless manner ("He he, did you just see/hear/feel that, dude?"). From my experience, it is extremely difficult to travel upwards and deeper, while simultaneously playing interaction games with others around you. And there-by it becomes a choice...do you enjoy playing games with your friends by interacting with them...or do you risk removing yourself from their presence (physically and otherwise) and concentrating fully inwards. My advice...if you want to explore beyond level 3...don't do it with someone whom is going to demand interaction with you. Likewise...if all you want is a fun social trip...don't do it with someone whom is intent upon inward exploration.

Ish

------------------
"MY BRAIN HURTS !!!!!!!!!

------------------
Veritas, Lux et Pax

but the other people things can be great too
my last trip (4/20) i spent the first half with a positively wizard friend & the second wandering the streets & through nature
every location seemed to have special significance, its own story

life: some kind of VR game, or what?

------------------
A crowd will contradict it's own audibility -Mr. Bungle

I too retreat into my own world, refusing to talk or making no effort. A sense of tranquility comes over me and i feel connected to everything, so connected in fact that there is no need to talk. Have any of you ever tried talking while in the midst of a trip, have you heard yourself? I feel primitive as if words have no meaning and we are uttering sounds. try to explain what you are experiencing while on a trip, the words are only a fraction of what really is going on, a event so supernatural and mystical that it simply cannot be contained by any number of words, sure you can describe things, but some things are way too immense and immeasurable....at least to the common mind. we will never accurately say what the effect of the reality we are experiencing.

The solitude is a sense of comfort to me, many people believe we all have somebody, the sad truth is that we have nobody, even though we look and act alike, we all are individuals, we are all alone. True happiness comes from within, self love...the all natural opiate. I firmly believe that when you can love yourself, that then and only then can you begin to love other people, accept other people and their flaws as well as your own, and by the way i don't mean self love as standing in front of the mirror caressing yourself, I mean something alot deeper than that ...the true self......look and you will find, sorry if i bored you all, but this is something which is important to me....I'm glad that their are others that are also intorverted and seek knowledge within themselves, Like giant receptors, not homing beacons (screaming here i am, here i am, look at me I'm high as a kite) bye all....

also i'd like to say that in the past when i tripped i would stay in the same spot for what seemed to be eternity, and i was perfectly content that way, nobody to bother , just left alone to revel in my own thoughts.....bye again

[This message has been edited by baffa (edited April 28, 2000).]

------------------
Let's stop praying for someone to save us and start saving ourselves
Let's stop this and start over
Let's go out, Let's keep going
This is your life-This is your fucking life
We need something to kill the pain of all that nothing inside
Quit whining, you haven't done anything wrong, because frankly
You haven't done much of anything
Someone's writing down your mistakes
Someone's documenting your downfall