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InvisibleAnubisRonin
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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92050 - 01/24/00 06:21 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

From what I have heard ... the strain that is available doesnt form sclerotia!


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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92052 - 01/24/00 05:09 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, no sclerotia. A better bet is to scrap the old culture and find a new wild one. They still grow commonly in Mexico. Someone in the area just needs to pick some and take prints.


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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92053 - 01/24/00 07:19 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

OK So whos in the area??????


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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92054 - 01/24/00 08:15 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

So,the strain doesn't form sclerotia? The strain also hasn't been fruited by anybody?
Sounds like a bad deal!
Somebody needs to take a trip to Mexico.
Workman,
I was under the impression that they do grow in Mexico, but not as common as Cubensis. I also believe(my opion or theory) that they probably are more widespread than Mexico.
There is a slight chance they might be found in other tropical and sub-tropical climates, like Texas, Lousiana. Miss., Alabama etc...... or further south like Honduras,Gautemala, Nicaragua etc.......
Also, they may not form sclerotia indoors, but they might outdoors? Sclerotia is a survival mechanism. When cultivating it indoors, most cultivators try to grow at optium growth parameters. There is no danger stimuli(heat,cold,drought), for it to kick into survival mode.
With out a new or different strain, there isn't much hope, and cultivating the same strain indoors hasn't worked yet.
Somebody living in a tropical or sub-tropical climate might get lucky by preparing a couple outdoor beds. It might form scleortia or pinheads from outdoor stimuli? There is a very slight chance, this may work. But there is so little to loose and so much to gain.

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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92055 - 01/24/00 10:48 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

There is damn good chance I'll be heading to Mexico for 2 weeks in June/July. I have a friend who is very familiar with parts of Mexico where he has found and eaten the p. mexicana and some other species some years back. Were talking about taking a trip down there this summmer to look for the p. mexicana, and p. zapectorum, and a few others. Sure would be nice to find these in nature.
For now I'm getting ready to put this weak strain on dung and compost and see if there is any luck.

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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92056 - 01/28/00 08:41 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

checking...


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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92057 - 01/31/00 02:13 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Couple o quickies:
these babies need casings right? That's what TMC says, I assume it's right.

Just got an email that roundtrip tickets to mex city and monterrey mex as low as $180 for travel on the 10th. email me if you want to go, I'll send a link. BTW if you've never been south o the border, cheap stays galore esp in rural areas, that's all they have is cheap.

One of us here at the shroomery is already in mex. I don't remember his name, but it is some aztec god or something, I remember because he digs Initial State and I didn't think anyone in mex would have heard of them.

Ryche, if you're so buddy buddy with your esse down south, why not just get him to mail some prints, I just don't think we should wait for summer. I need instant gratification.
Yes they are more widespread than mex. They can be found commonly further south in Belize and in Guatemala. Unfourtunately, last summer while I was in belize and guate., we arrived on the first day of the rainy season. No caps! It didn't even rain but once the whole time we were down there. Rainy season starts end of July, not sure when it ends but I'll bet it's soon if not now. We need to get prints soon if we get them at all before next fall!
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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92058 - 01/31/00 04:19 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

FRUITING TIME
this is from Heim R.,Comptes Rend. 242 (1956)
967;Rev.Mycol.22(1957) 77.
Know from sonthern Mexico and Guatemala between 4500 and 5500 feet,especially in limestone regions, growing isolated or sparsely in moss or herbs along roadsides,humid meadows,cornfields and in the neighbourhood of pine and oak forests; fruiting from May until October.
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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92059 - 02/06/00 02:08 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

Mycofile: I never said I was buddy buddy with someone IN Mexico. What I said was I have a good friend who is very familiar with Mexico.

I wish it was that easy to get a spore print from Mexico.. believe me I've been trying for years from a couple of email contacts....been trying to get peytote buttons to...many promises....but..... so far everything that has been promised and said it was sent,, never came. Yet I have sent several packages there in hopes I was getting some Mexican species back in return. Dunno.. corrupt mail system there.. not sure. Also Mexico is a very poor country, and hardly anyone has computers there so we dont have any local Mexican mushroom lovers to help us out...

So with that said... I'm giving some serious thought to following my dream and spiritual insticts to go there myself and seek these sacred mushrooms.

My friend does not post here and prefers remaining anonymous, so I'll just refer to him as McFly :wink:

Ok... here is the update on our plans so far.

I can tell you I have one great tour guide of Mexico as a friend. We talked long distance today and did some further planning and "are you serious?" "Yes, I'm serious" "ok..lets do this" kind of talk.
I've been mentioning it to him every since I flew and spent a weekend with him and found out just how knowledgable of Mexico (and the world, from his travels) he really is. Cant even tell you how envious I was.. wishing I had the balls and resources in the past to go travel and do the things he has done.

McFly lived in Mexico and Guadalajara for 7+ years.. as well as traveling many places in the world. I had to do a little convincing to get him to go back... he's burned out on the whole latin america thing......CAN YOU IMAGINE !!!!

My travels in Mexico are only to the border cities and a few hours within the border, and tourist hot spots near AZ and CA. This guy knows Mexico extensivly.

McFly knows 2 places in Guadalajara he has picked the p. mexican personally for many years (while he was there.. and they were in season) He also knows many places in Mexico that psilocybes grow, mostly cubenis. These places where cubensis grows, he has bought the p. mexicana and a few other species of psilocybes, that did not look like cubensis from local street vendors. So he knows there in the area.
Unfortunatly, back then, McFly was not into studying them and growing them like he is now, he just picked them to eat them, or bought and ate them. As only a few scientist even realized back, then how important these would all be to us now.

I dont want to get everyones hopes up yet... but I really think were going to do this.
Its been a dream of mine, especailly after reading "The Sacred Mushroom Hunter, A tribute to Gordan Wasson" to explore the right parts of Mexico for these sacred mushrooms. But I could never do something like this on my own... and after staying with McFly and meeting him and his wife... and keeping a phone/email contact....nowing from the beginning what a great and honest person he is....and keeping our friendship going the last couple of years, I have a lot of confidence now to do this with such a great tour guide.

Mexican mushrooms have always given me such a deep spiritual high... and this will certainly be a spiritual journey to an extent.

Well... more to come on this subject.
McFly is flying down to stay with me in late Febuary, and were going to go over maps and I'll absorb some more of his knowledge on Mexico and we'll continue planning this.

In the mean time... keep your prayers with us that we can make this happen....for the benefit of us all :smile:

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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92060 - 02/06/00 04:32 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

It seems as if I have assumed something and made an ass of I and I. Sorry, it sounded like he lived down there and ya'll were tight. Did you ever get my PM, Ryche? where did PM go anyway, I can't find it to check mine or send more? If you didn't, I'll drop you an e-mail.
I just remembered, I met an extemely cool and talented guide in western Belize (also works in Guatemala). He knew a little about mushrooms, and also knew they were out of season and that I wouldn't find any (he was right). I bet with a little monetary motivation, I might could get him to find a print. Trying to contact him in the next 7 seconds, updates coming.

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Re: Developing a fruiting strain of Psilocybin Mexicana!
    #92061 - 02/06/00 01:55 PM (17 years, 24 days ago)

Heya Mycophile,
nope... no private message.
I'll be gone for a day, but will check my emails tommarrow.

yeah.. that would be great if you can get a hold of your friend from Belize.

I think the problem is most of the ppl in these 3rd world countries really dont care about spores or growing the mushrooms. Nor do they know much about the different species. What they do know is they can pick them and sell them to us tourist :smile:

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