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HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges
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I need ink cartridges 57/58 and damn they are like $60.00 at the store.
Have you guys ever used the remanufactured ink cartridges that you find online?

[URL="http://www.inkjetsuperstore.com/s.nl/sc.2/.f?search=hp"]Example[/URL]

Damn its like $40.00 total, im just wondering if they work or not.
How they hell do they remanufacture an ink cartridge.


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: RemainRandom50]
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I use generic ink exclusively.  Yea they can fuck up your printer over time, but that is irrelevant because the printer cost is minute compared to ink cost.

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: DieCommie]
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what makes ink so expensive?


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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Printer companies.  Generic ink from non-printer companies is quite affordable.

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: DieCommie]
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right, but what makes it so expensive?  I mean, does ink come from a rare tree in the amazon or something?  maybe specially-trained monkeys hand-pick the ink drop by drop from sacred rivers of ink?


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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No, its a marketing thing.  The same thing that makes airport food or concert beer expensive.

Im pretty sure ink comes from petroleum which, though going up, is still cheap for ink.  What many printer companies do is sell the printers at or even below cost.  The profit is made solely in the ink.  They sell you a nice new printer for very cheap, with big warnings to use only 'approved' ink.  Then you pay 10X what the printer cost buying replacement ink for the next few years.

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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HB said:
right, but what makes it so expensive?


manufacturing costs are minimal as are transportation,
marketing and advertising, since it's a consumable and
companies seek brand loyalty you'd believe they would be
willing to make the costs reasonable, currently if you have a
4 color printer it's cheaper to replace the printer after the
second set of cartridges


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
What many printer companies do is sell the printers at or even below cost. 


do you honestly believe it costs $300 to produce a printer?


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
DieCommie said:
What many printer companies do is sell the printers at or even below cost. 


do you honestly believe it costs $300 to produce a printer?


maybe for some printers?  I do know that printers these days often have fax and high-res scan abilities beyond just printing ... some print photo-quality and that must be expensive to produce ... and some can scan text itself to export to a word (etc.) document ... these technologies must cost some good money for R&D and production ...

or am I wrong?


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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the cold cathode tube that cost $40 to buy 2 years ago is now around $3 retail in the US, again... how much do you think it cost to produce it? new tech does drop in price, R&D does cost money but the minimum wage in these factories that produce the stuff is around 60 cents/hour, a meager $1200/year


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Prisoner#1]
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oooh I totally forgot about slave labor.  silly me!  :weirdeyes:


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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I'd think the price was justifiable if these things were
produced in the US or if the print head were a part of the
cartridge because it would be a new head for each new
cartridge making it like a new printer each replacement

it costs a few cents to make the casing, they frequently ask
you to return the old one and even provide an envelope to do
so, that's even more money saved by the companies


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Prisoner#1]
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are there ANY big corporations who don't screw everybody out of their money?

which company was it that was bailed out recently and then was caught after spending $500,000 at a resort spa?

lolz.  I'm glad the world I live in is way more corrupt than I am, it makes me feel warm and gooey inside ...

especially after I'm done with Brugman.  oooh baby  :blowjob:


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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lol damn this thread turned into a discovery channel fucking show.

i just learned all i need to learn about ink, but the question still has not been answered!

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: RemainRandom50]
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I worked in a copy/print design center, and I was told this is how it happens:

Someone turns in a recycled HP17 cartridge.
HP17 is also compatible with say, 48, 59, 66.
So, they fill it back up with ink, put a new printhead on.
(Some places have an independent company test them).
And then they go back out for sale as 48,59,66, or 17.

Ta-da!

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Adden]
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S_2 said:
I worked in a copy/print design center, and I was told this is how it happens:

Someone turns in a recycled HP17 cartridge.
HP17 is also compatible with say, 48, 59, 66.
So, they fill it back up with ink, put a new printhead on.
(Some places have an independent company test them).
And then they go back out for sale as 48,59,66, or 17.

Ta-da!


right but where did the 17 come from?


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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Is this a chicken-or-egg quip, or do I not understand? Li'l medicated.

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: HB]
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HB said:
S_2 said:
I worked in a copy/print design center, and I was told this is how it happens:

Someone turns in a recycled HP17 cartridge.
HP17 is also compatible with say, 48, 59, 66.
So, they fill it back up with ink, put a new printhead on.
(Some places have an independent company test them).
And then they go back out for sale as 48,59,66, or 17.

Ta-da!


right but where did the 17 come from?


This thread is fucked!


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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Ok, another shot at this.

There's a specific shape for say, our X Y Z cartridges to fit into numerous printers.  They're refilled with ink and the new printhead's code will designate if it's an X, Y or Z.

So the remanufacturing process is the same as the manufacturing process, they just have the casing already. There's no difference, but you're better off buying from someone who has them tested by an independent company.

A good example would be Office Depot's brand of HP "X" that goes for $14, as opposed to HP's "X" at $24.99. Same thing.


The HP rep said remanfactured ones are just as good, if not better. Apparently it takes ~1 gallon of crude to make 1 toner or a dozen inkjet cartridges.

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Re: HP Remanufactured Ink Cartridges [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
I'd think the price was justifiable if these things were
produced in the US or if the print head were a part of the
cartridge because it would be a new head for each new
cartridge making it like a new printer each replacement


Actually, some do have the print heads built in.  I went through a Canon, an Epson and a Lexmark (all with print heads attatched to the printer) before I learned this trick.  All 3 printers were printing like shit after a couple cartridge changes.  No amount of 'print-head-cleaning' would fix them.

Then I learned that HP has print heads built onto the cartridges so I bought an HP printer (Photosmart 7150).  That was a long time ago, maybe 5 years.  It still prints photo quality like it was brand new every time I change cartridges.  I buy new cartridges (not remanufactured or refills) and I've never had a problem.

The down side...as everyone has said here, cartridges are expensive.  Luckily I don't print much so I'm usually only changing them a couple times a year.  I tried finding them cheap on the internet but I've found that if you just watch your local electronics stores for sales you'll get them even cheaper then anywhere online.  You just have to be aware and buy them on sale before you need them so you already have the replacement when they run out.

But if I was in a situation where I printed a lot I would search for a more economical option.


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