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pre-emptive strikes
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Do you niggers know what this means?

Do you know this is a major turning point in US policy?

We will attack mutherfuckers because we suspect they may be hostile toward us sometime in the future.....

Your tax dollars, mutherfuckers.

It's been policy, but never overt policy.

A new age is dawning.....and I don't like the looks of it.


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: PGF]
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jim morrison told me to kill george w, so that's just what i'll do

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: ]
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I would not cry if you did it,
but I am not asking you to do it.....


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: PGF]
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i'll egg him first and see how that goes, then it's uphill from there

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: PGF]
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It is more than just suspicion we have against Saddam.
Waiting for a smoking gun in the age of nukes is a little to late don't you think?
DO you believe Saddam?


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: mntlfngrs]
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?Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to endanger America. Now, shadowy networks of individuals can bring great chaos and suffering to our shores for less than it costs to purchase a single tank. ...

?Traditional concepts of deterrence will not work against a terrorist enemy whose avowed tactics are wanton destruction and targeting of innocents,? the report said. ?The overlap between states that sponsor terror and those that pursue [weapons of mass destruction] compel us to action.?



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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: PGF]
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hours after the planes crashed, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld decided to "hit S.H. [Saddam Hussein] at same time. Not only UBL [Osama bin Laden]. ... Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not." It is clear now that Saddam Hussein and the WTC attacks were not related, but that was never the point. Instead, we have returned to the Cold War rhetoric of freedom versus tyranny, liberty versus oppression. Yet for all the talk of "regime change", we have not been told what or who would replace the Iraqi dictator. History suggests that another puppet regime will be installed.


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my tax dollars going to more hits of acid for charles manson

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: Lallafa]
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I'm sure it would go like Afganistan. Interim government followed eventualy by "elections".


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: PGF]
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i was listening to some rage against the machine today. smart people.

i want to vomit every time i hear bush or our gov claim something. it hurts when you can see straight through the BS and have no comfort in the people with the big red NUKE buttons making sure others can't be near as deadly as they are


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: Eightball]
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These other rouge contries would be way more deadly than we are if they had nukes. People like Saddam would push that button in an instant. Without any other real options (no big armies or airforce/naval power) They are likely to drop that sucker without the slightest hesitation. I'm not very fond of waiting around untill someone crashes another plane and thistime it has a nuke or chems on board.
It is because we have alot of restaint that we didn't go to war as a result of the Cuban missle crissis. I don't think the outcome would have been very rosey if the players had been middle eastern fundamentalist groups.

I think it is nieve to believe these people wouldn't put a knife in your back at thier first opportunity. They can't stop fighting amoungst themselves, what makes you think they will treat us different if we turn our backs?


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: mntlfngrs]
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He wants to spray bz on people.
He says he will attack isreal, if we attack him.
He tortures and murders his own people, with nerve gas too..
He does things like take over kuwait.
He is building palaces, while his people starve, then blames us sanctions.
There are a lot more things.

Is this a guy you want to have biological, chemical, nuclear weapons.
I don't see why he isn't gone already.

Edited by 905 (09/20/02 11:39 PM)

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: 905]
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Thank you. I though I was going to be alone in this.


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: Macey Howard]
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You are the admin.
Move it.

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: Macey Howard]
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I'd like to lay a preemptive strike on that sweet thinbg in you avatar Moe. The real operation anaconda.


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: mntlfngrs]
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There are 200 Soviet nuclear warheads that cannot be accounted for.


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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: vkk_]
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And you know that they were sold to the highest bidder. Yeah this would be a great time for us to lower our guard and play dollies with the rest of the world.



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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: mntlfngrs]
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I dont think iraq has anything to do with this thread in a broader sense. Iraq is just the first stepping stone the bush administration is taking to see whether or not they can get away with pulling off these "pre-emptive strikes" and still walk away with acceptable public approval ratings. I'm sure if it's a succes for the adminstration they will not hesitate to create more bogus scenarios, biased stories, and misinformation for the purpose of waving it around in the publics face and then marching into whatever country they feel like to obliterate it. Bush and Rumsfeld have already named a huge list of "evil nations" that they intend to attack. It's all part of their plan to establish a never ending war that cant be won in the first place. They're only starting with saddam and iraq because its a subject the public is familar with and everyone thinks hes evil. All anyone ever says about saddam is that he gassed his own people and that he has "weapons of mass destruction" First of all the gassing took place like 15 years ago and our government didnt give a damn back then because he was our ally. There was never one single story on the news about it until we had to protect oil intrests in the mid east and the government needed the media to demonize iraq in order to gain public acceptance for a war. I've watched for about a year as our civil liberties slowly slipped away and the bush administration slowly accumulated more and more power and freedom to whatever they please. If the terrorists were trying to threaten our "freedom" as bush says, then they are doing a good job of it, because we're losing the only real freedoms we have left. This includes constitonal rights and civil liberties pertaining to privacy. Thats not the terrorists doing either it's our own govt doing it to us, so they cant fight an invisible enemy that will never ever be destroyed as long as our army keeps bombing countries into dust. Were actually probably creating more terrorists now than ever before.

mntlmngrs, you said saddam wouldmt hesitate to press the button in a second?
I think it's the other way around, it's our president who said he would use nukes against iraq if irag lauched scuds at isreal. On top of that fact, i think your underestimating saddam husein. hes not a fool. Hes survived for years because hes smart, and mostly lurks in the shadows. I'm sure he realizes that if he nuked anyone he, and probably his entire country, would certainly be destroyed. If you just look at how he hides in his own country then you'd see he doesnt want to die, and the only thing that could probably push him to the point of using a nuke on the us would be desperation, such as knowing the us government plans to kill you very soon.



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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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He doesn't have to use it directly. He could deliver it in a variety of stealthy ways and deny responsibility. And where did you here that we would nuke him? That would be the last thing we would do. Why on earth would we waste a nuke when we have plenty of firepower that is not atomic. The administration and congress knows that if we even launched a nuke at the middle east we would loose any allies we have. Thats just silly.

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I too hate the way our freedoms are deteriorating.
What kind of a man blows up every oil well in Kuait on his way out. Remember he invaded them first. Why would he do all that and make huge stockpiles of chem weapons if he is some cuddlely teddybear?


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Edited by mntlfngrs (09/21/02 02:14 AM)

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Re: pre-emptive strikes [Re: mntlfngrs]
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In reply to:
What kind of a man blows up every oil well in Kuait on his way out. Remember he invaded them first. Why would he do all that and make huge stockpiles of chem weapons if he is some cuddlely teddybear?



The US is the largest stock piler of chemical weapons, not to mention the largest stockpiler of nuclear weapons, and biological weapons.

The cute little puppy dog you've seen gassed in those al quieda videos.......well, think of that multiplied by thousands. We test our shit on primates, canine, feline, bovine and every other animal out there.

Do you really think we are some holy country of saints that does no wrong? Look at Panama. We invaded their country, took out their leadership and installed a puppet government.

In the process of attacking them, we killed thousands of innocents, burned their houses and then went through with bulldozers and raized their what was left of their homes.

One day you'll understand the inhumanities we unleash on other country's citizenry, I just hope by then you are not calloused and think it's an ok thing.

Open your eyes.



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