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InvisibleSwami
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Pre-emptive Strike
    #1259122 - 01/29/03 03:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Bush's declared (not exact words) that it is not necessary for one to wait for the first blow to respond to a threat.

As the morals of a country are a macrocosm of the microcosm, then this logic, if valid, should apply on the personal level.

So basically, if you threaten my life verbally, I have the right to kill you even though no outward action, other than words, has taken place.

For those who disagree with my logic, please explain clearly and UNEMOTIONALLY why you feel I am in error.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1259575 - 01/29/03 05:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

what if I point out I COULD kill you, or vaguely wave a gun in your direction?


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1259676 - 01/29/03 06:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bush's declared (not exact words) that it is not necessary for one to wait for the fist blow to respond to a threat.

As the morals of a country are a (I use big words to make me sound smart) then this logic, if valid, should apply on the personal level.

So basically, if you threaten my life verbally, I have the right to kill you even though no outward action, other than words, has taken place.

For those who disagree with my logic, please explain clearly and UNEMOTIONALLY why you feel I am in error.





No disagreement here.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1259727 - 01/29/03 06:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ehehhe i agree with swami!


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1259799 - 01/29/03 07:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What if your black, I butaly kill my adopted brother and then threaten to kill you, and then I make friends with the KKK?

I guess you would think I was kidding.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1261604 - 01/30/03 11:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

what if I point out I COULD kill you, or vaguely wave a gun in your direction?




you'd get charged with brandishing a weapon, and arrested


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: ]
    #1261947 - 01/30/03 01:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you didn't get it.  :tongue:


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1263534 - 01/30/03 11:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

we should "pre-emptively" kill off all higher primates, before they evolve to challange human dominance...

yes, then we'll be safe.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1264049 - 01/31/03 03:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The phrase "pre-emtive strike" is so November 2002.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1266246 - 01/31/03 06:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think your logic is shaky at best since you are attempting to compare interpersonal relationships with global politics.

Institutions of government are designed to preserve society, even when that comes with a price, ie:denying freedom to an individual (a criminal), even if that means his natural "right" to life, whereas a threatening encounter between two individuals boils down to self preservation and is a much less complicated thing.

That being said, i do not think that any geopolitical scenario necesarilly gives one country the "right" to do anything, nor do i believe global policing by the United States is the best thing for America or the world. However, it could be argued that a country has the "right" to engage or interfere with another country simply because it has the Power to do so.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Viveka]
    #1269358 - 02/01/03 09:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

I think your logic is shaky at best since you are attempting to compare interpersonal relationships with global politics.




Micorocosm - Macrocosm. Global politics are made up of interpersonal relationships. I see global politics as comparable to the interpersonal relationships of 14 year old boys. :grin: 


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: Swami]
    #1269583 - 02/01/03 10:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

As the morals of a country are a macrocosm of the microcosm

I think its the other way around, the microcosm are the morals of the macrocosm, and it seems everyone is about to get a new morality adjustment.


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Re: Pre-emptive Strike [Re: ]
    #1270775 - 02/02/03 11:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we did treat people from other countries like human beings.

wait no, thats too much responsibility.


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