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MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel.
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http://www.insidetech.com/news/2389-mit-students-develop-solar-dish-hot-enough-to-melt-steel


‘New solar dish from MIT concentrates sunlight intensely enough to melt steel.’ -

The solar industry is booming. With waves of investment and grants, the solar power industry is for the first time becoming a serious business. New power plants will soon be pumping power out to consumers, while other firms market to sell panels directly to the consumer, providing them with a more direct means of experiencing solar energy.

There are many forms of solar power technology. Today the most dominant is photo-voltaics , which comprise the traditional solar panels that come to mind when one thinks of solar power. However, there are other promising ways of capturing the sun’s energy that are merely less developed.

Among these is a parabolic collector. A parabolic collector consists of an array of mirrors focused on a singular point, which they heat to a high temperature. By placing water or another liquid at the collector, energy can be stored in the form of a phase transformation, and later harvested through a turbine generator.

However, parabolic collectors are still a relatively new field of research. Their true potential remains relatively unknown. A glimpse of it was provided by a research team at MIT, which developed a new parabolic collector design, which will blow away current solar power designs in terms of efficiency.

The MIT team believes that their lightweight, inexpensive device holds the promise of revolutionizing the power industry and providing solar power to even remote regions.

The key piece is the 12-foot dish, which the team assembled in several weeks. The design is exceedingly simple and inexpensive. The frame is composed of aluminum tubing and mirrors are attached to it.

The results are staggering – the completed mirror focuses enough solar energy at its focal point to melt solid steel. The energy of typical sunlight is concentrated by a factor of 1,000. This was showcased during a demonstration, in which a team member held up a board, which instantly and violently combusted, when brought within range of the focal point.

By directing the dish at a more practical target – water piped through black tubing – steam can be flash created, offering instant means of producing energy or providing heating.

Spencer Ahrens, who just received his master’s in mechanical engineering from MIT, was among the designers of the dish. He and his fellow team members are serious about marketing it, and leveraging its cheap cost and easy production. They have founded a company named RawSolar. They say their design is easily mass producible and that they hope to be pumping out 1,000 of dishes in years to come.

The new dishes would return their costs in a mere couple years, unlike standard photo-voltaic installations which can take 10 years or more to return their costs. This improvement is critical to providing practical economic justification for adoption.

The dish is based partly on components invented and patented by inventor Doug Wood. He was so pleased with the team’s work that he signed over rights to the components to the team. He elates, “This is actually the most efficient solar collector in existence, and it was just completed. They really have simplified this and made it user-friendly, so anybody can build it.”
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The mirrors incredible power makes short work of a beam of wood, disintegrating it in flames and smoke. The focal point can melt steel. (Source: MIT)

Wood says one of the keys to the success of the project is the smaller size. Dishes are affected by the same weight dynamics that effect living organisms. Much as large living organisms would need an inordinate amount of weight support and thus are not favored, larger dish designs fall short in that they require an exponentially greater amount of infrastructure. For example, a dish the size of the RawSolar team’s design costs only a third of what a larger dish would cost.

MIT Sloan School of Management lecturer David Pelly gave a guiding hand to the students and thinks the economic upsides of the technology are impressive. He states, “I’ve looked for years at a variety of solar approaches, and this is the cheapest I’ve seen. And the key thing in scaling it globally is that all of the materials are inexpensive and accessible anywhere in the world. I’ve looked all over for solar technology that could scale without subsidies. Almost nothing I’ve looked at has that potential. This does.”

The ability to build unsubsidized, profitable, and easy to manufacture solar power will truly be something amazing. This should be an exciting technology to follow as it is marketed and further developed.

Besides Ahrens, the other students primarily working on the project were Micah Sze (Sloan MBA ‘08), UC Berkeley graduate and Broad Institute engineer Eva Markiewicz, Olin College student Matt Ritter and MIT materials science student Anna Bershteyn.


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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:sun:


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Bridgeburner]
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wow. i'm patiently waiting for technology to start impressing me like this, cuz fuckin' a i would use renewable natural resources to live off.


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: mentalIMAGE]
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i cant wait until i have a house and i can start using alternative evergy sources.


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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yeah there's so many alterntive energy sources. It's a shame they're not tapped more, locally speaking. I always think that even if everyone generated 1% of their total household energy annually from alternatives that country-wide the savings would be enormous. So many resources could be saved if everyone made a tiny bit of effort. I know this wouldn't happen but jesus if everyone took just one tiny step in the right direction the savings would be crazy.

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Kerr Avon]
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These technologies are available to the public, they're just expensive and can't be installed in an old home. For example, geothermal heating will keep your home at a balmy 58 degrees (I think, I'm not sure), after that you'd only need a couple bucks to heat or cool either way. The downfall of geothermal heating is it has to be built into a new home which makes all current home owners shit out of luck.

We are on the cusp of something altogether new and beautiful. Keep your eyes open :laugh:


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Cerveau]
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Damn straight it's gonna be beautiful. I'd also like to see more 'recycling' of energy. Just an idea but for example 'collectors' that say capture light from light bulbs to power other devices or say mini turbines built into household water/boiler systems that leech off any current inefficiences. The savings here would be tiny! but again I think it's a case of every little step... :heart:

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Kerr Avon]
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Kerr Avon said:
yeah there's so many alterntive energy sources. It's a shame they're not tapped more, locally speaking. I always think that even if everyone generated 1% of their total household energy annually from alternatives that country-wide the savings would be enormous. So many resources could be saved if everyone made a tiny bit of effort. I know this wouldn't happen but jesus if everyone took just one tiny step in the right direction the savings would be crazy.



if every american switched all of their lightbulbs from incandescent to compact fluorescent, it would save tens of billions of dollars a year in electricity.  something as simple as that can make a difference.

Quote:
1. If every one of 110 million American households bought just one ice-cream-cone bulb, took it home, and screwed it in the place of an ordinary 60-watt bulb, the energy saved would be enough to power a city of 1.5 million people.



http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3433



my fiancee and i switched all of our lights to CF, and our electric bill dropped by $40 a month.  its so easy a fucking caveman could do it.  :crankey:


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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Wow, MIT kids are scary.  What if they decide to attack one of us with their laser.

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: kiyote]
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ants tremble in their presence.....


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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i wonder what military projects the government is doing with it. solar energy as a weapon... couldn't they produce heat waves or beams or whatever?


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Bridgeburner]
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There was a variation of this on Mythbusters.  They recreated Archemedes solar death ray.  They made a concave mirror from polished copper panels and set a boat on fire from across the lake!

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Stedanko]
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I believe it was the Romans or Greeks, who used parabolic mirrors to destroy enemy ships with concentrated sunlight.

Oh someone already mentioned it.  I don't know very much about who did it, but we did research in my math class on it and the affects of multiple mirrors etc.

Edited by DRTMaverick (07/22/08 12:31 PM)

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Bridgeburner]
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b0red5tiff said:
i wonder what military projects the government is doing with it. solar energy as a weapon... couldn't they produce heat waves or beams or whatever?



wouldnt surprise me.

im willing to bet that with a large enough collector/concentrator array in orbit, they could project a strong enough beam to make it to earth and cause damage.  if the goverment is not developing this technology as a weapon, they have at least thoroughly looked into it.


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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i had this idea before, but not to make steam.  this is great, maybe we have a chance afterall.

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: sleepy]
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Its better to melt salt with it, then you can heat it to thousands of degrees, and when there is no sun the heat in the salt can still generate power overnight.


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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Cannashroom]
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heh?

care to elaborate?


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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Quote:
MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel.



I'm not impressed :shrug:


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: Ferris]
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how can you not be impressed??  melting steel with the sun, thats quite a feat!  :tongue:


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Re: MIT Students Develop Solar Dish Hot Enough to Melt Steel. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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Similar technology that I do find impressive:



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