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Its believing you are what is seen & identifying & then falling into the defensive traps of identification, when in fact you are only the see-er & nothing you see is what you are. All identification is mistaken & not true, you cant identify what you really are as you are infinite, how can you define infinity?

When you don't identify as a limited body/mind organism then you can appreciate life for what it is, not what "you" want it to be.

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Are these facts, or your beliefs about what might be factual?  Consider the possibility that you are incorrect in these beliefs, and that it is therefore NOT insane to identify oneself as an individual.  Take some time to sit with the idea that we may, in fact, be individuals.  We may in fact be our bodies and personalities and thoughts, in addition to the thoughts which represent awareness of these aspects of our self.  We may in fact be finite, in which case maintaining a belief in infinite awareness is delusion.

Perhaps if you can allow your awareness to contemplate these possibilities of factual qualities of who we are, you will not be so inclined to sermonize on your beliefs. 

Chronic777 said:

Well it cant be me as i dont take myself to be an individual
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Anybody else?

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Was that last question for us, or yourselves....?




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Chronic777 said:

Icelander said:

Grav said:

fight club is the first time i heard that line,  a few years ago.. and I really didn't understand it, or how something positive could be associated with something that sounded so negative.

ive since found alot of personal truth to the statement,

just wanted to see other's thoughts on this idea

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Not quite IMO. Freedom is non-attachment. You can hope all you want but being attached to that hope being realized causes suffering.

I hope I win the lottery without buying a ticked but I'm not holding my breath. 

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Freedom is non-attachment, & hope could be seen as an attachment, or not really as maybe a hope is just a hope, its not as solid an attachment as a belief.

From my experience non-attachment, in the liberating/buddhist sense of the term is letting go of everything, including the world & universe, & if theres no universe, what is there to hope for!?

Sometimes the most negative sounding thing can have the most positive effect, like i keep talking about emptiness & nothingness and consciously dying, they don't sound like pretty things at all, but they reveal the blissfull nature of the whole.

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