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Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms!
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Okay guys,
The first time I ate shrooms I didn't take any vitamin C or orange juice with it... Yet I seem to hear that is kind of the standard.

I ate a pretty hefty dose my first time, and didn't notice nearly as heavy of effects as I later had with my vitamin C and lemon juice trip (lord knows THAT kicked my ASS!!!!! I have a new, heavy respect for shrooms after forgetting who I was for an hour and a half)....

I'm curious how common it is for you guys to throw in something like vitamin C/lemon juice/orange juice with your shrooms? Do you eat on an empty or full stomach? Thus far I've had no *real* issues with nausea, and in fact, have EATEN while peaking.

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: NeuroticTrip]
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It's fairly common to eat them with something acidic, since it amplifies them. Normally I try and eat something earlier on that day so I'm not hungry nor full(like a hour or so before), so it doesn't take a while for them to kick in.

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: NeuroticTrip]
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antioxidants and shrooms


first time tripping on shrooms was on an empty stomach first thing in the morning with a hang over with not much research about the physics of shrooms and mixtures with different drinks(orange juice or different juices high with antioxidants). so i figured i should at least drink something so im not all dehydrated while im tripping. so i went for the orange juice had a cup. downed 2g's of some pretty good shrooms. then 2 more cups of orange juice to get the taste out of my mouth. shortly after a friend stops by before i start to trip and i have a bong packed so we smoke a gram through the bong real quick and this is about 20 maybe 30 minutes after ingestion of shrooms and im just high as hell from the weed(wake and bake works). then we decide to peace out and find something to do as i tell my friend i just took some shrooms. then we get in the car and i just lost connection with reality right there. every minute that passed went by in the timeframe of an hour it seeemed like. so we went on a blunt ride having nowhere to go. riding around my local town not even knowing where i am watching trees morph seeing people that weren't there and stuff and asking my friend what time it is. had a good revelation on it that i cant put in to words but it turned out to be a great trip. but to cut a long story short i would say orange juice definitely enhances a trip because it slows the metabolism of the psilocybin making it more potentiated. i ended up doing some intense research after i told someone about my experience because i was surprised of the effects with only 2 grams and i didnt take the oj into account until someone told me they heard it makes you trip harder.


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formaldehyde aint really got pcp in it

fuck illy

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: rokving]
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We call orange juice "Go-Go Juice" here lol.  Vitamin C is a wonderful vitamin.  It boosts your immune system and promotes an overall better feeling of wellness.  I always drink orange juice when i eat mushrooms, drop acid, or roll on extacy.  I believe the better well-being makes for a better trip/roll and keeps good vibes coming because you feel better.  It's also really good for you and keeps you hydrated well, just don't drink really excessive amounts of it because it's not much fun to vomit up.  I always drink vitamin water to supplement the orange juice and keep me better hydrated.  While you're tripping and especially rolling, your body temperature rises and your body burns up more water keeping itself cool.  When you keep the fluids that your body needs pure and clean like juice and water as opposed to sugary, preservative-filled sodas, the hydrogen that cells require is easier to extract and your body works better, keeping you feeling great.

As for the food and mushrooms question, i believe that having excess food in your stomach while coming up can cause a bad trip.  Unless it's something easy to digest like fruits or vegetables, your body has to work hard to break the food down while things are clicking in other places causing you to begin tripping.  Try fasting before a trip sometime.  There are plenty of peoples' testimonies on this message board stating that fasting can promote a better trip.  In my own experience, eating mushrooms on an empty stomach caused me to have a much stronger trip for sure.

It's always good to eat a light snack at the peak of your trip if you feel the need to.  Mushrooms and LSD really affect my body in a sometimes negative way.  Sometimes my experiences are so intense that i feel completely drained by the peak, usually because of excessive perspiration.  I'll try and make myself a light snack that's easy to digest and has plenty of nutritional value before i dose up.  Something like strawberries, some cold fruit salad, or maybe even some tuna salad on crackers is great to replenish nutrients lost while in the psychedelic world.  Eating while at your peak can also be a really fun experience :P


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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: rokving]
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rokving said:but to cut a long story short i would say orange juice definitely enhances a trip because it slows the metabolism of the psilocybin making it more potentiated.


Can you post any info/link(s) explaining the science behind this?  I know acidic liquid such as orange juice or lemon juice facilitates the extraction of the alkaloids, as when making tea or mixing (powdered) mushrooms into a drink--thus maximizing the surface area-to-volume ratio and causing the alkaloids to be digested more rapidly than normal which causes the effects to be felt quicker and more intensely.  But I haven't seen any proper evidence (scientific, not anecdotal) to suggest vitamin C interacts with psiloc/yb/in in any noticeable, measurable way -- or how drinking OJ or lemon juice separately from the shrooms would affect the metabolism..?  (I seem to remember something about acid breaking down psilocybin into psilocin but I'm not sure how (or if) that works, and what that would do effects-wise.)

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: Land_Crab]
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couldn't find the exact link it's probably down by now, it was some report by some no name doctor :frown: . I found something that touches on the concept a little bit.

"Biology

Psilocybin is a naturally-occurring compound found in high concentrations in some species of Psilocybe and Panaeolus (collectively called "psilocybin mushrooms" or "psilocybian mushrooms"), and at low levels in a large number of species of the Agaricales. The spores of these mushrooms are completely free of both psilocybin and psilocin. The total potency varies greatly between species and even between specimens of one species in the same batch. Younger, smaller mushrooms are relatively higher in alkaloids and have a milder taste than larger, mature mushrooms. Mature mycelium contains some amount of psilocybin, which can be extracted with an acidic solution, usually of citric acid or ascorbic acid (Vitamin C). Young mycelium (recently germinated from spores) does not contain appreciable amounts of alkaloids. Most species of hallucinogenic mushrooms also contain small amounts of the psilocybin analogs baeocystin and norbaeocystin. Many types of psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue when handled or damaged — this is due to the oxidization of active compounds and is most notable in mushrooms with a high psilocin content. Several other non-psychoactive (and in some cases toxic) mushrooms also bruise blue."

It's basically saying the psilocybin sticks to the orange juice.

Heres the link its from a legit site.

http://www.bipolarsupport.org/modules.php?name=Drugs-MM&page=Psilocybin.html

if you want to find out more your going to have to do some googling. intense googling.

and remember i drank oj before and after ingestion. and seriously like 5 cups


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formaldehyde aint really got pcp in it

fuck illy

Edited by rokving (06/26/08 02:25 AM)

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: rokving]
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The effect of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) has been demonstrated to preserve psilocin.

I think it is debatable as to whether or not this would actually lead to stronger experiences.

Saying that psilocin can be extracted with acidic solution is not quite the same as showing that ascorbic acid slows its degradation.  All that means is that psilocin is basic and can form an acid-base salt that is soluble in water.

IIRC, the reference is:

Hasler, F., Bourquin, D., Brenneisen, R., Bar, T., and Vollenweider, FX.  Determination of psilocin and 4-hydroxyindole-3-acetic acid in plasma by HPLC-ECD and pharmacokinetic profiles of oral and intravenous psilocybin in man.  Pharm Acta Helv.  72, pp. 175 - 184.  (1997)


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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: Plasmid]
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plasmid im not sure if your considering the other variables, looking at one document won't complete a theory.


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formaldehyde aint really got pcp in it

fuck illy

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: rokving]
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my favorite way to trip is to soak 1.5gs in lemon juice for a couple minutes, then take it like a shot. comes on quick, hits hard, and is over before it becomes uncomfortable

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: rokving]
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rokving said:
plasmid im not sure if your considering the other variables, looking at one document won't complete a theory.


It's documented that ascorbic acid will act as a preservative for psilocin.

What theory?  I said that whether or not this leads to a stronger trip is debatable.  I didn't form a theory.  I didn't propose a hypothesis.  I didn't even make a guess.  I left it up in the air.  That's not a theory.  What exactly do you think I'm trying to say?

The clarification about how extractions work is based on theory, however and is based on more than that paper.

I'm really lost as to what "theory" you think I'm proposing.  Theory is a strong word.

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: Plasmid]
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Try fasting before a trip sometime.  There are plenty of peoples' testimonies on this message board stating that fasting can promote a better trip.  In my own experience, eating mushrooms on an empty stomach caused me to have a much stronger trip for sure.     


Everytime i have shroomed i have tried to fast for atleast a day if i can plan it out ahead of time. I have always tripped at night so sometimes i will have a little breakfast, like a banana or an egg and toast, in the morning just to get something in my stomach. I also take a bit more vitamins than usual, and have always sipped on OJ while eating my shrooms and while tripping through out the night. I have enjoyed my self every trip, no stomache probs at all, feel great the next day.....Then when I wake up the next day i wake n' bake and stuff myself..


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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: openmind]
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Tried my first hero dose in a long time this weekend. From my friend and I's first ever harvest, thanks for the help and insight from this website, btw. My friend prepared it using the lemon juice method and I have to say it was great. I piled lemon aid on top of it as well. It went down smooth with no problems of nausea at any point during the trip. 5g I believe was initial dose with fresh mushrooms available during the trip. Don't know if it boosted the trip, but it defiantly made it easy to go down. Also we had no problems after coming down. Was intense and lasted a solid 3 to 4 hours with visuals and laughing lasting another 1 to 2 hours after. Not sure if the lemon helped but will be my delivery method for now on. Thanks again.

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: Herb]
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Herb said:
Tried my first hero dose in a long time this weekend.



Did you turn into Superman on your "hero dose?"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Lol why you post on a 10 year old thread? Lol


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"If you're not worried that you took way
to much, you didn't take enough" -
Terrence McKenna

There is no soul, only the ego dies.
The body was never yours.

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Re: Vitamin C / Orange Juice with your shrooms! [Re: bishlap]
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I didn't bump it..herb did :shrug:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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