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Using hormone to combat "shyness"
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2175030/Shyness-drug-could-boost-confidence.html

Scientists are learning how to use the hormone oxytocin, the hormone that makes a mother and child bond when it is an infant, to make a new drug that is supposed to ease shyness.

This sounds good, until you get to the last paragraph where they mention using this in restaurants to make diners feel more eased.

Thoughts?


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Most people don't know how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next. But a dope fiend has a pretty good idea. All you gotta do is look at the labels on the bottles.-DrugstoreCowboy

The world is like a ride at an amusement park- thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's loud and fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Don't worry or be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride" But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? But it doesn't matter: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want.-BillHicks.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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i dont want some drug put in my food.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: just_v]
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I'd eat it. Make up an illness. then sue them. probably.


*edit* also. 10 years from now i predict they will find out extended exposure to this causes cancer.


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The world itself is the will to power - and nothing else! And you yourself are the will to power - and nothing else! ~Friedrich Nietzsche

Edited by Felinor (06/23/08 11:52 AM)

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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Soma?

its bullshit, basically saying, "you dont need real confidence, just huff some lab hormones, and you can talk to other people!"

seriously, i would not eat at a place that sprayed hormones into the air to make me relax. i would, however, eat at a place that offered a free blunt for an appetizer. that would be a much better route.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Felinor]
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Who knows, if nothing else, maybe it could end up being a coke alternative. That or the new date rape drug.


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Most people don't know how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next. But a dope fiend has a pretty good idea. All you gotta do is look at the labels on the bottles.-DrugstoreCowboy

The world is like a ride at an amusement park- thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's loud and fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Don't worry or be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride" But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? But it doesn't matter: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want.-BillHicks.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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wow, this makes perfect sense.

many scientists now a days are claiming that mdma doesnt work only with seritonin, infact, mdma uses seritonin to enhance the activity of oxytocin to envoke empathy. 

when i read the subject of this thread i was just going to shout out "how about mdma?" .

but yes i would wonder if using strait oxytocin would in fact feel similar to mdma perhaps without the the amphetamine buzz. 

i also wonder if oxytocin was taken in conjuction with a amphetamine like adderall if it would replicate the feeling of mdma.

gota get me some shyness.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
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Yeah. I also thought of MDMA when I heard about this. It's hard to predict what will come of this, if anything. Time will tell, I suppose.


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Most people don't know how they're gonna feel from one moment to the next. But a dope fiend has a pretty good idea. All you gotta do is look at the labels on the bottles.-DrugstoreCowboy

The world is like a ride at an amusement park- thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's loud and fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Don't worry or be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride" But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? But it doesn't matter: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want.-BillHicks.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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yes time....sigh.

its such a shame that mdma is not use legally in a theraputic setting.

my girlfriend has selective mutism and at times she cant say a word to anyone no matter what the setting is no matter how hard she tries.  a month ago i gave her 120mgs of mdma (her first time) and took 95 mgs myself.

we talked about our deepest darkest secrets for 4 hours strait and finished by having amazing intercoarse.  my girlfriend was AMAZED, and almost in shock that people do not use this legally for therapy.  she said she had never shared so much with anyone in 12 years of being iin counseling and seeing a psychiatrist.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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I made a couple of posts about this too.  They are in ODD and the chem section.  Check em out.

Oxytocin is a chemical that occurs naturally in the brain.  It is also released along with many others by MDMA use.

Oxytocin is responsible for some feelings of empathy and love.  I would definitely like to try this, especially as I'm a naturally shy person.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
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Quote:
or be used as an alternative to tear gas to calm rioters.


This comment scares me. First, because I agree with B.F.Skinner's theory that free will is ultimately an illusion (we are all just responding to our environment). Couple this theory with mankind's observable greed and lust for power and the future scares me. I can imagine millions of humans in the bonds of chemical slavery.

With enough knowledge of this type, a corrupt government could command it's citizens around with chemical spray cans as if these people were robots having their buttons pushed (which I essentially believe that we are). Sprayed with a chemical to negate the need for sleep, sprayed with another to work harder, etc.

note: I'm not dissing knowledge or the acquisition of knowledge here... just stating that I don't have high hopes regarding the happiness or "free will" of the majority of the human race in the future.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: 13eetleJuice]
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Well, if people are made into slaves, but they are constantly happy because of what they are fed, what is the real loss? Constant euphoria at the expense of your freedom. Sounds like heaven.


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The world is like a ride at an amusement park- thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's loud and fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Don't worry or be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride" But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? But it doesn't matter: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want.-BillHicks.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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this is a little off topic but i read it in stephen colberts book last night while i was dropping a cosby.

God Says: Ignorance isn't bliss, it's paradise.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Quotation]
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I think you mean, "Constant euphoria at the expense of freedom from life," maybe?

The possible future I was alluding to would be one where people were stripped of choice. Isn't that what you like about life? What is the opposite of "choice" and "control" over one's life? Prison? But what if you could have all the euphoria inducing drugs you wanted if you chose to go there and adopt prison life? Would you go?

I wouldn't but, perhaps I'm just addicted to the illusion of control. :shrug:


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: 13eetleJuice]
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I think that a drug such as this may help give people who have problems in a social settings more control over what they truly intend to express. This is no hard drug that gives you feelings of extreme bliss and happiness but instead helps people form bonds and communicate effectually with others where before you could not. It seems to me that one could still be unhappy if they were to take such a drug, so I do not believe such a thing could be abused by say a government to control. When the article says a replacement to tear gas they only speculate because they take the statements that the drug might make people nicer and more charitable a little too far.

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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: Moop]
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I'm what you would call on the "shy" side I guess.  I'd still feel like shit knowing a drug is whats forcing me into human interaction.  I much rather prefer being more on the quiet side, as the majority of people around me  I find boring and uninteresting.  I don't seem to get much stimulation out of most people I talk to, and this hormone seems like it would just be making you feel something that is completely synthesized.


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Re: Using hormone to combat "shyness" [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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I'd hella eat that shit right up

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