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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613587 - 05/10/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's no use expecting the pills you get to have similar content to the ones on that website bud, any idiot can press a picture into a pill and often different batches of the same brand differ in content. The only way you'll know for sure is with a testing kit. Seriously though i wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as you're buying from a trusted supplier you're not very likely to get poisoned or anything!

You might wanna check out http://www.dancesafe.org too, some excellent info on there.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: drSE]
    #5613645 - 05/10/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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and make sure you don't drink alcohol.




Im not sure how good doing that is for your health, but i drank often when i took pills. I took them alot over 3 years !

Definately don't drink on your first go.
Im honestly not sure of the facts to do with health. Me and all my friends are ok now but you might be different    :shrug:.



MDMA increases body heat and dehydrates you, thats why you drink water when rolling.  Beer = Dehydration

Or something like that




I reckon its not going to be that good for you, but i think its only going to be a small minority who are badly affected by it.
I spent years going round clubs where everyones drinking and rollin. ive only ever seen afew people end up ill, luckily ive never seen anybody die from taking X ( they carn't all of been MDMA pills tho ).

It could cause problems drinking though, theres always that chance !


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613676 - 05/10/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

smoking weed on top of E doesn't do much either... if you smoke weed when the E effects are coming off, you'll feel like shit.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5613677 - 05/10/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Drink gatorade instead of water. This is because people tend to drink too much water and lower their sodium levels in their blood. It wont be too great the day after, I find that drinking beverages with sodium in them during a roll makes it easier to handle the next day. And take vitamins too, even though many say that MDMA isnt physically harmful, I get a hunch that the body uses up alot of nutrients when on MDMA.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613695 - 05/10/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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MarijunaIsGood4U said:
smoking weed on top of E doesn't do much either... if you smoke weed when the E effects are coming off, you'll feel like shit.




Thats strange, if we had been out clubing the smoke was one of the best parts of the night !

Still high off the pills then sitting down with your mates for a smoke and a laugh, good stuff i thought.

Shows how different people can be,


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5613713 - 05/10/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i see... did you do it while the effects were coming off? i did it and the experience was overwhelming... it didn't feel like the normal weed effects.. everything was sharp and it felt like my head was gonna explode.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613738 - 05/10/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When you smoke weed while rolling, you dont really get 'stoned'. It doesnt hurt the roll, but it does add a 'something' -- its hard to fully pinpoint what that something is, but its there - and its nice.

I find a smoke can turn a jittery/sketchy roll into a more blissfull/relaxed roll.

Maybe I'm just jaded, but the chance of getting 100% pure MDMA pills are slim to none. Most pills you get are probably MDx + a bit of meth/speed.

Generally speaking, I tend to only roll when going out to clubs/after hours (and dont even do it that often anymore), and actually prefer it  if my pills are a bit speedy. It gives me the 'get up and go' to dance. If a pill is too pure, then I just mash out, sit in the corner feeling blissed out. While thats fine for some people, if I'm at a club - I wanna be on the dancefloor :smile:

But for a home/relaxed setting with friends, a pure pill is better. But with the exceptions of weed and Psychedelics, I'm not a big fan of getting high at home.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jon]
    #5613762 - 05/10/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'd go for it dog, Take a couple if you want, roll your ass off, just joking, my friend took 6 his first time though what dumb ass.

I'd go find some cool peeps to kick it with while rolling, but don't get too mushy on them, I was like getting all into it trying to bond with homies but they were not feeling it. The best thing to do is just be yourself even if you do have urge to lay out some heart felt shit I tend to try to keep a certain reserve and try to keep things in a real prospective, because when you come down its like whole bonding experience is lost and you just feel like fucking idiot. But never the less it is a bonding type drug. Best thing is go bond with some babes at a rave or something. Also being the slinger at the party also makes you the man that everybody wants to get to know, which can be good and bad thing. But that might not be your thing, its not really mine anymore, you can do this stuff anywhere and be cool its not like shrooms. Well good luck


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Dfekt]
    #5613814 - 05/10/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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MistaMiner said:
It's no use expecting the pills you get to have similar content to the ones on that website bud, any idiot can press a picture into a pill and often different batches of the same brand differ in content. The only way you'll know for sure is with a testing kit. Seriously though i wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as you're buying from a trusted supplier you're not very likely to get poisoned or anything!

You might wanna check out http://www.dancesafe.org too, some excellent info on there.




note to anyone considering rolling on unknown pills, dancesafe sells kits for fairly cheap, that you can take a tiny scratch off a pill and test the purity of it. this doesn't tell you percentages, but you can guess general amount of MDMA in it from the color, maybe by fifths, like 80% is MDMA, 60% is, etc.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613859 - 05/10/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i see... did you do it while the effects were coming off? 




Yeah, normally we would go back to someones house and do buckets till 7-8 in the morning.

I don't think i would take any X pills if i knew i didn't have some smoke.

Takes the edge right off the comedown.

We are all potheads tho  :wink:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613891 - 05/10/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Could anyone tell me whether it's worth it or not, and whether it's as trippy as erowid makes it out to be, or whether its much more physical and euphoric with little visual changes...




Real MDMA is not visual at all for most people. The most profound changes are emotional,and it can produce a pretty intense "body high" (often referred to as "blowing up"). You really can't compare the amphetamine-like phenethylamines (MDMA,MDA,etc...) with something like LSD. They are two totally different beasts.

MDMA is one of the drugs I just can't see anyone really having a bad time on. I've seen people get a little jittery, but nothing like some freak outs I've had to babysit on acid and shrooms.

Of course you can get just about anything in a pill, so all that obviously doesn't apply unless you get "good" pills. MDA is frequent in "ecstasy" and it's similar to MDMA, but it is a little more trippy and mental than MDMA, but still doesn't aproach LSD/shrooms/mescaline etc...


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613899 - 05/10/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5613995 - 05/10/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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TM said:
Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614015 - 05/10/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pick yourself up some 5HTP for the morning after from GNC. Helps replace your lost seratonin and whatnot. Don't feel quite so cracked out. If you're going to go to sleep afterwards pop the 5HTP and then go to sleep, but DON'T take it while you are still rolling. It can increase your metabolism of seratonin and cause you to overdose on it.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5614032 - 05/10/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't recommend taking a third of a pill for your first roll. Your first roll is something very special in your life--you're realize that once it hits you. You can only have it happen ONCE, and for many people, it is the best few hours they will ever experience. Its just that good. Don't short-change it. Go for the gusto and take a whole pill, its not going to hurt you.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614082 - 05/10/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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TM said:
Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?




1) Yeah. Basically.

2) Whatever, man.

3) The internet is great too. Especially this forum. Makes little difference to me. MDMA is a BLAST.

4) Let's agree to disagree. I've rolled for 14 hours straight by re-dosing. It works awesome for me.

5) Once every few months????? :rofl2: Once a week doesn't even hurt (for me).  I'd say once in 2 weeks is cool for most people.

6) You've never done a heavy dose of pure MDMA, obviously.  It's hella visual in large doses (2-3 pills) and with N2O, WOAH!!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Noviseer]
    #5614099 - 05/10/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

1/3rd of a pill is a total waste. At the MOST, you might get a little bit of energy running through you, but at the least, you'll just waste that amount of MDMA, go for at the Very least, a half a pill, but I took a whole one my first time and don't regret it whatsoever, amazing experience.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5614112 - 05/10/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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DON'T take it while you are still rolling. It can increase your metabolism of seratonin and cause you to overdose on it.




This is an example of idiotic advice. Considering that it takes 12-24 hours for the brain to transform tryptophan into serotonin and that it's impossible to OD on serotonin, please STFU... That's meant so as to advise you not to give false advice, not as a flame.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: danamine]
    #5614131 - 05/10/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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1/3rd of a pill is a total waste.  At the MOST, you might get a little bit of energy running through you, but at the least, you'll just waste that amount of MDMA, go for at the Very least, a half a pill, but I took a whole one my first time and don't regret it whatsoever, amazing experience.




Yup!

Take the whole damn pill and love it. :lol:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614167 - 05/10/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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TM said:
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TM said:
Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?




1) Yeah. Basically.

2) Whatever, man.

3) The internet is great too. Especially this forum. Makes little difference to me. MDMA is a BLAST.

4) Let's agree to disagree. I've rolled for 14 hours straight by re-dosing. It works awesome for me.

5) Once every few months????? :rofl2: Once a week doesn't even hurt (for me).  I'd say once in 2 weeks is cool for most people.

6) You've never done a heavy dose of pure MDMA, obviously.  It's hella visual in large doses (2-3 pills) and with N2O, WOAH!!




1. Agreed let's move on.

2. "Whatever"? So I just imagined myself and my friends throwing up?

3. Way too subjective. Agree to disagree. Moving on.

4. "Let's agree to disagree. " No. The way MDMA metabolises itself it has active metabolites that mess with more of the drug being taken into the system from a liver enzyme perspective. Your serotonin reuptake transporters also down regulate(become less sensitive) when stimulated by that much serotonin in such a short period of time. Redosing will keep giving the amphetamine-like stimulation from the dopamine component, but nothing short of taking massive amounts or a dose all and once will work with maximum benefit.

5. Keep laughing. I'll laugh five years from now when you're clinically depressed and seeing a psychiatrist from rolling all the time. And EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. Just because you had a certain reaction, doesn't mean someone else necessarily will.

6. Stop assuming things. I've done large doses of MDMA in pure form (molly) and never got many visuals,ever. Nor did anyone else I knew.
And adding nitrous to dozens of drugs will cause visuals, but I'm talking about pure MDMA, so that's not really relevant.


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