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Thinking about doing MDMA
    #5613277 - 05/10/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

As the title says. I'm not sure what to expect, apart from impure pills. If i do it im thinking i'll only take 1/3 of a pill to see if i have any averse reactions or not.

Could anyone tell me whether it's worth it or not, and whether it's as trippy as erowid makes it out to be, or whether its much more physical and euphoric with little visual changes...

Thanks you guys.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613293 - 05/10/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

more physical and euphoric with little visual changes... But it is weird you just "connect" with everything around you. It is an amazing exp.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5613302 - 05/10/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would take a whole one, but that me


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: drSE]
    #5613354 - 05/10/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

On my first couple i got major trails, that might of just been the type of pill but ive never had it like that again since.

Its unlikely you will get pure MDMA pills around our parts, theres alot of MDMA powder going about though at the moment.

Pills are cool, you take them. Half an hour later you get an excited feeling in your stomach then your coming up and your off.

I did them too much though, fucked me up abit !
Don't get too into munching them !

( i'd do a full one too. I tried half at first then ended up haveing another one and a half later on, tis up to you though  :smile: )


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613359 - 05/10/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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its much more physical and euphoric with little visual changes...



that's more like it, at least the few times I tried it. you also connect very well with other people, feel very empathic etc. Also you can do some nice thiking about your life which could lead to some insights.

Tried it 3 times with over a year between each experience. first two times I took half a pill and when I wanted more another half


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613374 - 05/10/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Very positive experience every time I've taken it.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Cowgold]
    #5613407 - 05/10/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Some people throw up when they first take them. Just thought id tell you that incase it happens and you think your dying or something !

But yeah, more physical and euphoric.

( eyyyy, im smashed  :bigblunt: )


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613417 - 05/10/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

have you read the precautions on erowid? make sure you do.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613426 - 05/10/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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HyphalTryptamin said:
As the title says. I'm not sure what to expect, apart from impure pills. If i do it im thinking i'll only take 1/3 of a pill to see if i have any averse reactions or not.

Could anyone tell me whether it's worth it or not, and whether it's as trippy as erowid makes it out to be, or whether its much more physical and euphoric with little visual changes...

Thanks you guys.




The very first time I took x was when I took 4 hits of really good acid. Then an hour later took a pill. It was a blast....


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613432 - 05/10/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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If i do it im thinking i'll only take 1/3 of a pill to see if i have any averse reactions or not.




Very smart!
You've got the right idea.

Make SURE you got MDMA pills though. The rest is a waste of time, unless its MDA, MDEA or a similar MD

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Could anyone tell me whether it's worth it or not




Listen carefully: do not expect a trip, do not expect anything, but know this:

If you take a sufficient dose of MDMA in a livingroom/soft music setting with your BEST friends or your love, on a sober mind, you may very well have one of the most wonderful evenings of your life.

You're going to need two good pills per person: one for the roll and a second to either bump up after 1:30h if its not impressive or to chase the experience when it fades, if it is impressive.
Do NOT take more than two pills on any occasion.

And dont do it on a party, really. Distracted on a party even strong MDMA will just be a wonderful high. But taken in a quiet pleasant enviroment, together with just the people you hold most dear, God himself will come down from the heavens to give you a hug.

At the moment that I write this tears flow from my eyes and I smile broadly. Stone sober. Why? Because it can be SO BEAUTIFUL, you have no idea. This one can alter your life for the better if you use it properly with the right people.

You have no idea how beautiful it can be if everything is just right. Not the drug itself, but the magic between people it can catalyse.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Asante]
    #5613499 - 05/10/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Take it. Have more available for later. Listen to hard trance. Dance. Smoke cigarettes. Hug people. Chew gum. Drink water in moderation. Go for a walk. Get to know your friends REAL well! Prepare for an amazing night!!

Just a suggestion from someone who's had plenty of practice! You'd probably end up doing all these things anyway whether i mentioned them or not! :grin:

Have a blast and let us know how you get on man :thumbup:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Dfekt]
    #5613504 - 05/10/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

and make sure you don't drink alcohol.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613510 - 05/10/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Breath lots of air for me. I love the air, it tastes good.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Cowgold]
    #5613522 - 05/10/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LOL :werd:

Breathing is amazing on MDMA...

EVERYTHING is amazing on MDMA!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613524 - 05/10/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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and make sure you don't drink alcohol.




:thumbup:

Unless you want to shit out lava the next morning.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Dfekt]
    #5613528 - 05/10/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yeah, i forgot to mention, you'll need some GIRLS too  :smile:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613547 - 05/10/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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and make sure you don't drink alcohol.




Im not sure how good doing that is for your health, but i drank often when i took pills. I took them alot over 3 years !

Definately don't drink on your first go.
Im honestly not sure of the facts to do with health. Me and all my friends are ok now but you might be different    :shrug:.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Cowgold]
    #5613553 - 05/10/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, thanks for the overwhelmingly great input- its well appreciated :laugh:

I was on ecstasydata.org the other day, looking between types to see if i could calculate roughly which pills were more likely to be purer.

Lots of the new pills were DXM only - which is more like K, and if you don't watch it it can give you a severe allergic reaction if you're taking paracetamol at close times with it too.

Hopefully I'll be able to guage the experience, and report back, see if it fits the "MDMA experience" bill!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613583 - 05/10/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you're currently taking any medications check to make sure that they're not any type of MOA Inhibitor. Could be a very deadly mixture.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613585 - 05/10/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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and make sure you don't drink alcohol.




Im not sure how good doing that is for your health, but i drank often when i took pills. I took them alot over 3 years !

Definately don't drink on your first go.
Im honestly not sure of the facts to do with health. Me and all my friends are ok now but you might be different    :shrug:.



MDMA increases body heat and dehydrates you, thats why you drink water when rolling.  Beer = Dehydration

Or something like that


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613587 - 05/10/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's no use expecting the pills you get to have similar content to the ones on that website bud, any idiot can press a picture into a pill and often different batches of the same brand differ in content. The only way you'll know for sure is with a testing kit. Seriously though i wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as you're buying from a trusted supplier you're not very likely to get poisoned or anything!

You might wanna check out http://www.dancesafe.org too, some excellent info on there.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: drSE]
    #5613645 - 05/10/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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MarijunaIsGood4U said:
and make sure you don't drink alcohol.




Im not sure how good doing that is for your health, but i drank often when i took pills. I took them alot over 3 years !

Definately don't drink on your first go.
Im honestly not sure of the facts to do with health. Me and all my friends are ok now but you might be different    :shrug:.



MDMA increases body heat and dehydrates you, thats why you drink water when rolling.  Beer = Dehydration

Or something like that




I reckon its not going to be that good for you, but i think its only going to be a small minority who are badly affected by it.
I spent years going round clubs where everyones drinking and rollin. ive only ever seen afew people end up ill, luckily ive never seen anybody die from taking X ( they carn't all of been MDMA pills tho ).

It could cause problems drinking though, theres always that chance !


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613676 - 05/10/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

smoking weed on top of E doesn't do much either... if you smoke weed when the E effects are coming off, you'll feel like shit.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5613677 - 05/10/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Drink gatorade instead of water. This is because people tend to drink too much water and lower their sodium levels in their blood. It wont be too great the day after, I find that drinking beverages with sodium in them during a roll makes it easier to handle the next day. And take vitamins too, even though many say that MDMA isnt physically harmful, I get a hunch that the body uses up alot of nutrients when on MDMA.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613695 - 05/10/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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smoking weed on top of E doesn't do much either... if you smoke weed when the E effects are coming off, you'll feel like shit.




Thats strange, if we had been out clubing the smoke was one of the best parts of the night !

Still high off the pills then sitting down with your mates for a smoke and a laugh, good stuff i thought.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5613713 - 05/10/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i see... did you do it while the effects were coming off? i did it and the experience was overwhelming... it didn't feel like the normal weed effects.. everything was sharp and it felt like my head was gonna explode.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613738 - 05/10/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When you smoke weed while rolling, you dont really get 'stoned'. It doesnt hurt the roll, but it does add a 'something' -- its hard to fully pinpoint what that something is, but its there - and its nice.

I find a smoke can turn a jittery/sketchy roll into a more blissfull/relaxed roll.

Maybe I'm just jaded, but the chance of getting 100% pure MDMA pills are slim to none. Most pills you get are probably MDx + a bit of meth/speed.

Generally speaking, I tend to only roll when going out to clubs/after hours (and dont even do it that often anymore), and actually prefer it  if my pills are a bit speedy. It gives me the 'get up and go' to dance. If a pill is too pure, then I just mash out, sit in the corner feeling blissed out. While thats fine for some people, if I'm at a club - I wanna be on the dancefloor :smile:

But for a home/relaxed setting with friends, a pure pill is better. But with the exceptions of weed and Psychedelics, I'm not a big fan of getting high at home.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jon]
    #5613762 - 05/10/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'd go for it dog, Take a couple if you want, roll your ass off, just joking, my friend took 6 his first time though what dumb ass.

I'd go find some cool peeps to kick it with while rolling, but don't get too mushy on them, I was like getting all into it trying to bond with homies but they were not feeling it. The best thing to do is just be yourself even if you do have urge to lay out some heart felt shit I tend to try to keep a certain reserve and try to keep things in a real prospective, because when you come down its like whole bonding experience is lost and you just feel like fucking idiot. But never the less it is a bonding type drug. Best thing is go bond with some babes at a rave or something. Also being the slinger at the party also makes you the man that everybody wants to get to know, which can be good and bad thing. But that might not be your thing, its not really mine anymore, you can do this stuff anywhere and be cool its not like shrooms. Well good luck


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Dfekt]
    #5613814 - 05/10/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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It's no use expecting the pills you get to have similar content to the ones on that website bud, any idiot can press a picture into a pill and often different batches of the same brand differ in content. The only way you'll know for sure is with a testing kit. Seriously though i wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as you're buying from a trusted supplier you're not very likely to get poisoned or anything!

You might wanna check out http://www.dancesafe.org too, some excellent info on there.




note to anyone considering rolling on unknown pills, dancesafe sells kits for fairly cheap, that you can take a tiny scratch off a pill and test the purity of it. this doesn't tell you percentages, but you can guess general amount of MDMA in it from the color, maybe by fifths, like 80% is MDMA, 60% is, etc.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #5613859 - 05/10/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i see... did you do it while the effects were coming off? 




Yeah, normally we would go back to someones house and do buckets till 7-8 in the morning.

I don't think i would take any X pills if i knew i didn't have some smoke.

Takes the edge right off the comedown.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613891 - 05/10/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Could anyone tell me whether it's worth it or not, and whether it's as trippy as erowid makes it out to be, or whether its much more physical and euphoric with little visual changes...




Real MDMA is not visual at all for most people. The most profound changes are emotional,and it can produce a pretty intense "body high" (often referred to as "blowing up"). You really can't compare the amphetamine-like phenethylamines (MDMA,MDA,etc...) with something like LSD. They are two totally different beasts.

MDMA is one of the drugs I just can't see anyone really having a bad time on. I've seen people get a little jittery, but nothing like some freak outs I've had to babysit on acid and shrooms.

Of course you can get just about anything in a pill, so all that obviously doesn't apply unless you get "good" pills. MDA is frequent in "ecstasy" and it's similar to MDMA, but it is a little more trippy and mental than MDMA, but still doesn't aproach LSD/shrooms/mescaline etc...


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5613899 - 05/10/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5613995 - 05/10/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614015 - 05/10/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pick yourself up some 5HTP for the morning after from GNC. Helps replace your lost seratonin and whatnot. Don't feel quite so cracked out. If you're going to go to sleep afterwards pop the 5HTP and then go to sleep, but DON'T take it while you are still rolling. It can increase your metabolism of seratonin and cause you to overdose on it.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5614032 - 05/10/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't recommend taking a third of a pill for your first roll. Your first roll is something very special in your life--you're realize that once it hits you. You can only have it happen ONCE, and for many people, it is the best few hours they will ever experience. Its just that good. Don't short-change it. Go for the gusto and take a whole pill, its not going to hurt you.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614082 - 05/10/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?




1) Yeah. Basically.

2) Whatever, man.

3) The internet is great too. Especially this forum. Makes little difference to me. MDMA is a BLAST.

4) Let's agree to disagree. I've rolled for 14 hours straight by re-dosing. It works awesome for me.

5) Once every few months????? :rofl2: Once a week doesn't even hurt (for me).  I'd say once in 2 weeks is cool for most people.

6) You've never done a heavy dose of pure MDMA, obviously.  It's hella visual in large doses (2-3 pills) and with N2O, WOAH!!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Noviseer]
    #5614099 - 05/10/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

1/3rd of a pill is a total waste. At the MOST, you might get a little bit of energy running through you, but at the least, you'll just waste that amount of MDMA, go for at the Very least, a half a pill, but I took a whole one my first time and don't regret it whatsoever, amazing experience.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5614112 - 05/10/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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DON'T take it while you are still rolling. It can increase your metabolism of seratonin and cause you to overdose on it.




This is an example of idiotic advice. Considering that it takes 12-24 hours for the brain to transform tryptophan into serotonin and that it's impossible to OD on serotonin, please STFU... That's meant so as to advise you not to give false advice, not as a flame.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: danamine]
    #5614131 - 05/10/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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1/3rd of a pill is a total waste.  At the MOST, you might get a little bit of energy running through you, but at the least, you'll just waste that amount of MDMA, go for at the Very least, a half a pill, but I took a whole one my first time and don't regret it whatsoever, amazing experience.




Yup!

Take the whole damn pill and love it. :lol:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614167 - 05/10/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay... After digesting all of the answers to your questions given in this thread, I'd like to summarize it with my humble, experienced opinion:

1) If you get a hold of pure MDMA pills and you are male, just do a whole one. Young females are far more susceptible to OD'ing. Don't let the hype scare you.

2) I've never heard of anyone puking from MDMA alone.

3) Speaking of "alone", it is not necessary to have other people present or rolling with you to fully enjoy MDMA. Sit or lie down in the most comfortable position you can, listen to some techno (preferably with headphones) and suck some N2O occasionally. You'll have a wonderful time. God may even stop by and give you a hug and say "hi".

4) As for a re-dose, I'd double it, so if you can get 3 pills, do one, then the 2 two-three hours later, you're golden.

5) Don't make a habit out of rolling too often or the pills can lose their magic. To help prevent that, take a 5-HTP capsule each day for two days before you roll and for 3 days after.

6) Heavy doses of MDMA can provide a wonderfully visual trip rivaling that of LSD, especially when mixed with N2O.

This is an example of a divine press:



Enjoy your roll.




I have to respectably disagree with a lot of that information.

1. Females are more sensitive to most drugs than males, this includes MDMA. This is probably from body weight and biological brain differences. And what do you mean by overdose? If you mean simply "taking too much" that's too subjective. If you mean dangerous overdose resulting in death or serious harm, that will not happen from one pill unless you are extremely,extremely unlucky.

2. I've puked almost everytime I've taken ecstasy, but it was never unpleasant and actually felt like a "purging" thing and it always happened near the come down. Nothing like throwing up on alcohol...

3 I agree that it's not necessary to have other people around when rolling, but most people will want to have a good friend or two around, especially for their first time.

4. You're totally wrong on this one,IMO. MDMA because of its pharamcokineticts(the way your body processes the drug and its metabolites),redosing "mid trip" doesn't work nearly as well as taking a full dose at once or shortly after the onset. I can back this up with more info if you want proof...

5. Agreed. Don't do it more than once every few months or so. It depletes serotonin stores temporarily and the jury is still out on whether long term use causes mild organic "brain damage" (damage to serotonin/5-HT axons).

6. I totally disagree with you on this one. MDMA isn't very visual at all and I've never gotten anything but extremely minor visuals on it. Are you sure those visual experiences weren't from another psychedelic amphetamine?




1) Yeah. Basically.

2) Whatever, man.

3) The internet is great too. Especially this forum. Makes little difference to me. MDMA is a BLAST.

4) Let's agree to disagree. I've rolled for 14 hours straight by re-dosing. It works awesome for me.

5) Once every few months????? :rofl2: Once a week doesn't even hurt (for me).  I'd say once in 2 weeks is cool for most people.

6) You've never done a heavy dose of pure MDMA, obviously.  It's hella visual in large doses (2-3 pills) and with N2O, WOAH!!




1. Agreed let's move on.

2. "Whatever"? So I just imagined myself and my friends throwing up?

3. Way too subjective. Agree to disagree. Moving on.

4. "Let's agree to disagree. " No. The way MDMA metabolises itself it has active metabolites that mess with more of the drug being taken into the system from a liver enzyme perspective. Your serotonin reuptake transporters also down regulate(become less sensitive) when stimulated by that much serotonin in such a short period of time. Redosing will keep giving the amphetamine-like stimulation from the dopamine component, but nothing short of taking massive amounts or a dose all and once will work with maximum benefit.

5. Keep laughing. I'll laugh five years from now when you're clinically depressed and seeing a psychiatrist from rolling all the time. And EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. Just because you had a certain reaction, doesn't mean someone else necessarily will.

6. Stop assuming things. I've done large doses of MDMA in pure form (molly) and never got many visuals,ever. Nor did anyone else I knew.
And adding nitrous to dozens of drugs will cause visuals, but I'm talking about pure MDMA, so that's not really relevant.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614260 - 05/10/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614589 - 05/10/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was wondering why the hell you were arguing with someone over the internet (someone stone cold sober) when you're on ecstasy,as there seems to be a lot better things to do. I wasn't sure if you were on it or not though.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614600 - 05/10/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

WTF??

No. Not yet, anyway. Go away junior.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614681 - 05/10/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

XTC is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gunna get.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: kaniz]
    #5614691 - 05/10/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You do if you test it. :tongue:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614774 - 05/10/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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/me smiles, giggles, walks away from this thread.




So you do that without the help of MDMA? I know a doctor who can help you with that, but it may require some Haldol and/or Thorazine.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614791 - 05/10/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614825 - 05/10/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

TM is the kewlest guy I have ever met. Too bad he is ignoring me and can't see me post that.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5614880 - 05/10/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5614901 - 05/10/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have never done extacy before either and I have been very high on many other stimulants, very high on many other drugs too.
I would do atleast one for my first time.
Or I thought about chopping it up in a small line or two and have it hit me quicker. I have never tried it, but I have friends that have done it quite a few times in the least.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Skunk420]
    #5614935 - 05/10/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, BIIIIG mistake snorting an E pill, dude.

Don't do it! Much racier buzz. Not as pleasant. Burns like hell! EAT THE PILLZ. :wink:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614949 - 05/10/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh really, how much to do suggest taking for the first time? I can handle any stimulant very well. I take your word about swallowing it.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Skunk420]
    #5614971 - 05/10/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If they're good, one pill oughta be plenty :wink:.  I do two, but I'm hardcore :rotfl:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5614987 - 05/10/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously,TM, you should be nominated InterGalactic King of Kewl Guys...or perhaps just president. I mean that. I really do this time.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615236 - 05/10/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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If they're good, one pill oughta be plenty :wink:.  I do two, but I'm hardcore :rotfl:


..humm, I have done a lot of cocaine, meth and crack before. I think I will try a pill, it depends on the potency and purity I am sure.
I am not scurred, I just get tested for drugs, so I have to wait until about fall anyway.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Skunk420]
    #5615244 - 05/10/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

MDMA is much more of a psychedelic than an amphetamine.

You're in for a big surprise.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615272 - 05/10/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well if it is more pure molly, i have heard of all kinds of cut shit in Utah, most of it is cut with meth, and other stimulants.
But if it is more pure mdma, I heard it is psychedelic, euphoric beyond it!!!!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Skunk420]
    #5615335 - 05/10/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, that's why it's called "Ecstacy". :lol:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615374 - 05/10/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard of really cut shit so, i never know, and besides I am on PTI so not until early fall.


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    #5615545 - 05/10/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The A in MDMA stands for amphetamine...

And snorting pills can be fun. I like to eat my first pill, then when I need a little bit of a recharch start bumping pills.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5615552 - 05/10/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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That is a good point. It always reminded me more of speed than a psychedelic to be honest. MDA, on the other hand, is a lot more trippy.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5615573 - 05/10/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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The A in MDMA stands for amphetamine...





That is a good point. It always reminded me more of speed than a psychedelic to be honest. MDA, on the other hand, is a lot more trippy.




I knew you had never truly had pure MDMA... You just proved it.

I'm on two of those VW's now and it's very visual. I'm in Ecstacy. :lol: Dude, get a clue.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615585 - 05/10/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard MDA is the substance that makes you hallucinate, not MDMA. I've had plenty of molly and I don't recall hallucinating from it. I've had eye jitters and trails and shit from rolls, but no real major hallucinations. I've definately been ROLLING MY BALLS OFF before tho...


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5615603 - 05/10/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My first and only time, I think I had a bunk pill. I felt very little the whole night, until about 5 hours later when I went to sleep. I felt almost a rolling orgasmic body feeling that was very uncomfortable in a strange way. I couldn't sleep for hours.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615606 - 05/10/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey buddy, everyone is not you. DON'T EXTRAPOLATE YOUR REACTIONS TO EVERYONE ELSE'S.

When you assume things, you make and ass out of you and me...but mostly you.

That's pretty funny considering the guy that invented it over at Merck never mentioned anything about visuals when talking about MDMA. I guess you know more than him though.

(What the X gave you enough courage to take me off ignore? Hand clap for you.)


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5615617 - 05/10/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I've heard MDA is the substance that makes you hallucinate, not MDMA. I've had plenty of molly and I don't recall hallucinating from it. I've had eye jitters and trails and shit from rolls, but no real major hallucinations. I've definately been ROLLING MY BALLS OFF before tho...




This dude knows what he's talking about. I've gotten trails and stuff but no hardcore acid type visuals. When I say visuals I mean like close eye patterns and flat seeing shit that isn't there.

Maybe you've never done acid that wasn't shitty,TM?


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    #5615644 - 05/10/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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    #5615663 - 05/10/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

On a side note: Anyone happen to know what those symptoms I experienced might mean was in the pill?


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5615671 - 05/10/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Funny how you're the only one here who claims to find MDMA very racy and not at all visual and that it make you puke on the come-down...

Dude.. I'm not gonna argue with you about this anymore.. Go pick a fight with someone else. You're just pissed 'cause I rated you poorly for this shit. Go sulk in the corner.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jfisher]
    #5615679 - 05/10/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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On a side note: Anyone happen to know what those symptoms I experienced might mean was in the pill?




You mean "rolling orgasmic body feeling that was very uncomfortable in a strange way. I couldn't sleep for hours" ?

I dunno man.. can you be more specific?


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615735 - 05/11/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I'll try, but it was a good while ago:

I took it at around 7 pm with a couple of buddies. We went on a hike for a while, not noticing any effects until we got back. So at around 10 PM I felt slightly more talkative, and I could feel the effects kind of rolling like a wave. It was very mild, and not overwhelming at all. We all kind of decided it wasn't working out and decided to just hit the hay. I definitely didn't feel an overwhelming sense of connection or empathy, and it only got more noticeable upon laying down.

This rolling feeling I'm talking about just kind of felt like a body high, almost like the intense body energy I feel while coming up on mushrooms. I can't really describe it better than that.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jfisher]
    #5615751 - 05/11/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like some kind of RC maybe... MDMA is Ecstacy, it's unmistakeable.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5615790 - 05/11/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Naw, I think it could have been a low dose of some MDx chem. Hiking like that probably took your mind off the effects (why would you go hiking when you wanted to roll?).

I suppose it COULD have been an RC, but again it would have been a low dose of anything...


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jfisher]
    #5616197 - 05/11/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That sucks man, you didn't get a good hit.

The first time I rolled, it was a fucking revelation. I wasn't expecting much, just a body high pretty much, and I got blown away, moreso than psychedelics ever have really.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #5616209 - 05/11/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't find pure mdma to be so speedy and for me it is a little trippy and visual(like I said.. only a little), but that probably differs from person to person.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: ezsefix]
    #5616262 - 05/11/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It wasn't so much a hike as it was a walk around the neighborhood, I guess.  I just wasn't entirely sure what to expect, and going outside is always nice.  :shrug:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: Jfisher]
    #5616271 - 05/11/06 03:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The first and only time I rolled, it was after being drunk for hours.

More importantly, however, I'm thinking about doing N.W.A.  I know it's impossible to do Eazy, since I'm not a necrophiliac, but as for the rest of them... 

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: stefan]
    #5616321 - 05/11/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't find pure mdma to be so speedy and for me it is a little trippy and visual




Characteristic for my MDMA experiences is a tranquilizing effect. Once I learned that there is no need for the initrial unrest, whenever the pill starts to work I calm and relax, and it is rare to find me so profoundly calm and relaxed as on those moments. Its like becoming renewed and replenished.

My body has a bit of jitteryness but to my mind MDMA is far more a tranquilizer than something to get worked up about! To me it is more a basking in the sunlight of bliss than something that gets me particularly excited.

When you have used a lot of MDMA and close your eyes you will experience the most wonderful closed-eye visuals, something which definitely proved to me that its atypical, but definitely a psychedelic.

I know my MDMA is pure and typically is dosed between 90-125 milligrams. Our pills always are tested and quantified. I'm a cardiac patient: I can't afford meth in my E.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: TM]
    #5616400 - 05/11/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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You do if you test it. :tongue:




meh, if I bought it, I'll take it.


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: kaniz]
    #5616431 - 05/11/06 08:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

take a whole one. ill never forget my first time... i used to take anything and everything in high school. i had absolutely no idea what to expect, this guy just sold me one, hopped in my truck and was like "you'll be straight to drive." i popped it, started the hour long drive to get to a party and almost died umm... alot of times on the way.

i was just gettin into the music and smokin ciggarettes, and i didnt even notice i was rollin until i almost rear ended someone in our huge ass convoy we had. i pulled over, laughing and crying at the same time because i was feelin sooo good. lol, it wasnt that i was upset about almost crashing and dying, i just wanted to make sure i experienced my whole roll. i just couldnt help myself, lol.

MDMA + gum + (good) weed + sound system in truck with BASS + chick in your lap = heaven

i went to a club one time on E and when i was dancin with girls it felt like we melted into one person and we were just groovin... haha, my eyes were so dilated and i guess i looked like the biggest e-tard in the world cuz complete strangers would just walk up to me and rub my shoulders, hair, back, whatever. anything feels good on ecstacy.

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5616686 - 05/11/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Cheers everyone. When I was talking about taking a third of the pill, it was to guage and see if i'd have any allergic reactions. There have been a pair of deaths in the last 5 years from bad pills, but I suppose that's not likely to happen, and dealers aren't going to make money from killing people off. So yes, I think I'll take a whole one. Thanks everyone!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: monamine]
    #9468668 - 12/20/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

MDMA is a great experience, try not to take advice from people that suggest to do loads , yeah it can be a whale of a time but that's £35-40 for a gram. Its not wise doing it in one night unless you like looking like a zombie in the morning.


Keep it moderate don't do too much, 250mg is enough.  If you want a booster because you feel your coming down a bit to early, have another bomb but make it smaller, and if you know that you will be tempted to do some  throughout the night give it to someone to look after it for you.


When you buy MDMA in crystal form try and buy it so its in one rock and not all split crystals this could be cut with something, MDMA is white it can have a slight tinge to it, usually brown.

I haven't had a comedown from MDMA in crystal form, but your body's all react differently  and you may think otherwise. 

Keep Hydrated but don't drink too much have a 1/2L glass of water every hour and take a break if your active and keep cool :smile:

And for your own sakes, Don't snort it. Its stupid and it Burns :sun:


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
    #10717550 - 07/21/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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MarijunaIsGood4U said:
smoking weed on top of E doesn't do much either... if you smoke weed when the E effects are coming off, you'll feel like shit.




Exact opposite for me? :justdontknow: If anything, I smoke when I'm coming down and it takes me right back up!!! Smoking weed while rolling is amazing for me!!!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: jc_smith]
    #10717686 - 07/21/09 08:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

this post only goes back 3 years

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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: drSE]
    #10717811 - 07/21/09 09:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I recommend MDMA.

120mg is always nice!


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Re: Thinking about doing MDMA [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #11575235 - 12/03/09 07:02 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

1/3 of a pill wouldnt do anything for me but i dont know how much you weigh or anything like that. Just do 1 it feels amazing the first time. definatly one of my favourite drugs :smile:


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