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The image resize script...
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Ythan,

I know you or one of the other tech admins probably worked hard to implement this resize script... But it sucks balls. Totally sucks balls. It resizes the images and compresses them to hell which makes them look like cheap shitty porn images circa the 1990s.

Can you at least PLEASE remove this script, at least for supporters? I hate photoshopping the bejesus out of an image so it looks perfect then uploading it here and seeing it look like compressed bullshit. :frown: :frown: :frown:

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Gumby]
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I'm not really sure what you're talking about, could you please show me a comparison between the original image, the way the Shroomery resizes it, and the way you think it should be resized? Also, if you're photoshopping the bejesus out of an image why not just save it with the proper dimensions in the first place?

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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Because higher res allows you to see more detail than low res. Here is the latest example:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/08-24/323476934-bk1.jpg
http://www.impakt.net/~tyler/new/weilii/buds/bk1.jpg

Perhaps I have another... hold up
Damnit I have so many pictures uploaded I can't find my other example.

Point is: the resize script kills detail and tends to add darkness. How about for supporters images under 1280 (H or W) don't get resized? I always try to keep my "web ready" images under those dimensions. Would that be agreeable?

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Gumby]
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Aaah okay, I totally forgot about that feature. It only kicks in if the file size of an image you're uploading is larger than the maximum allowed (for supporters it's 512KB). In those cases it does try increasingly aggressive optimizations to bring down the file size. It's actually meant as a user-friendly alternative to simply rejecting the upload after a long transfer. To prevent images you upload from being modified you should make sure they're beneath the maximum file size. If your image is a JPEG you can often increase the compression without much noticeable difference. For example, one half of the image below is from the original which was 588KB. The other half I recompressed to a scant 150KB. Can you tell which is which?



And if I had the lossless source image, the 150KB side would look even better.

Anyway I apologize for the confusion and inconvenience, and I'll try tweaking the script to squeeze some additional quality out of the processed images. But your best bet is probably to handle any compression yourself to ensure the image is small enough that it doesn't require modification on our end.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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The main problem with the compression script is that it generates an image that is only 600 pixels wide.  If it made an image that was 1024 or 1280 wide it would be a lot better.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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Both sides of that picture is ugly quality :/

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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> The main problem with the compression script is that it generates an image that is only 600 pixels wide.

For those that browse on small screens, large pictures in threads are highly annoying.  (Well, they used to be... the new code that puts in scroll bars fixes that issue.)


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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Seuss]
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Shroomery pics are always shown as thumbnails in posts so that can't be annoying.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Annom]
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Im not a supporter... yet, but every now and then I get a picture like this...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-48/607240817-running.jpg

It can be resized to the full image size. Is this a mistake?


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Re: The image resize script... [Re: legallyhomeless]
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No, not a mistake! The poster did what we are supposed to do and used a decent jpg compression. That image is only 225kb, which is allowed.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Seuss]
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(Well, they used to be... the new code that puts in scroll bars fixes that issue.)


yeah, i have noticed this and i'm not too fond of it. i would just rather see a thumbnail or something. but most of the time, when i wanna see a picture in full size i either click on it (if it's a thumbnail) or right click + view pic.

is there a way to not have those scrollbars?

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: maggotz]
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I posted that picture and uploaded as normal. It never shrank down. Now you HAVE to have the image the right size or u get an error. This is so lame.


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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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Ythan said:
Aaah okay, I totally forgot about that feature. It only kicks in if the file size of an image you're uploading is larger than the maximum allowed (for supporters it's 512KB).


Ahhh, alright. I try to avoid compressing my images at all because I'm a big fan of quality pictures. But jpeg compression of 8 or 9 in Photoshop only sacrifices a tiny bit of quality and a reduces file size immensely. I'll start doing that. Gracias mang.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Gumby]
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I think a lot of people are going to stop posting pictures because many people do not have the software required to resize images. If you try to upload one now thats too big you get an error and the image isnt resized.

To get around this (which is a pain in the ass) I had to pick an image I DIDNT want uploaded followed by the ones I did. Now the error only happes for the first picture thats too big and the rest get resized as normal.

Maybe you should have it so that if your image is the right size... great, but if not it will resize it for you. I admit you lose SOME quality, but do 90% or shroomery members have some sort of photo editor?


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Re: The image resize script... [Re: legallyhomeless]
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That should not be the case... I did make some changes to the upload script, but only to attempt more fine-grained levels of optimization when an image exceeds the maximum size. To test, I used a regular non-admin, non-supporter account with an upload limit of 256KB and uploaded the infamous test photo http://www.impakt.net/~tyler/new/weilii/buds/bk1.jpg which is 588KB. The upload succeeded and produced the optimized image http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/08-24/338590041-bk1.jpg which is 212KB. The only time an upload should be refused is if it's compressed to 30% quality and resized to 600px at its largest dimension and it still exceeds the maximum filesize. However, this is similar to how it always was. Can you please give me a link to the picture which you're unable to upload by itself?

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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All of the pictures are stored on my computer. Only after you said you made thoes changes did I expirence any problems. Its not that big of an issue having to pick a picture I dont want uploaded first...not that I know I can still upload.

The one that failed was the one that I picked to be in the first upload box.



Now when I tried to upload the picture above, I used a very very small image and then that one. BOTH uploaded!


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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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Ythan said:
That should not be the case... I did make some changes to the upload script, but only to attempt more fine-grained levels of optimization when an image exceeds the maximum size. To test, I used a regular non-admin, non-supporter account with an upload limit of 256KB and uploaded the infamous test photo http://www.impakt.net/~tyler/new/weilii/buds/bk1.jpg which is 588KB. The upload succeeded and produced the optimized image http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/08-24/338590041-bk1.jpg which is 212KB. The only time an upload should be refused is if it's compressed to 30% quality and resized to 600px at its largest dimension and it still exceeds the maximum filesize. However, this is similar to how it always was. Can you please give me a link to the picture which you're unable to upload by itself?


i did not readd this post complllertely as i am a little fucked up right now but i would really like if the whiole "scrollbar on large images" was optional.. :shrug:

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: legallyhomeless]
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Legallyhomeless can you please send me a copy of the actual picture that won't upload, so I can try to reproduce the problem? Again, when I tried with an image which was too large it worked fine, so I need some help tracking this down. You can e-mail it to ythan@shroomery.org.

Maggotz talk to Alan Rockefeller, he's the one who asked that we stop enforcing a max-width on offsite images and the scrollbars are a necessary alternative. I'm not fucking with it any more right now so learn to love it the way it is.

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: Ythan]
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I cant upload my big pictures either ythan :/ its gay

Quote:
There were problems with your upload:
DSC07224.jpg was bigger than the allowed file size and was not saved.


i dont liek that... But every os has some type of editor that can resize..  so its not THAT big of a deal... It would be nice to have it fixed though :laugh:

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Re: The image resize script... [Re: implee]
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Ythan said:
The only time an upload should be refused is if it's compressed to 30% quality and resized to 600px at its largest dimension and it still exceeds the maximum filesize. However, this is similar to how it always was. Can you please give me a link to the picture which you're unable to upload by itself?


Ythan said:
can you please send me a copy of the actual picture that won't upload, so I can try to reproduce the problem? Again, when I tried with an image which was too large it worked fine, so I need some help tracking this down. You can e-mail it to ythan@shroomery.org.


You guys are killing me! A little help please?

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