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I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping....
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*Really* interesting lecture by a neuro-scientist who had to rebuild her brain from scratch after having a stroke. (Some of you might have seen her story reported a couple of New Scientists ago). She explains the experience in depth and from an expert's POV. Just watch, trust-

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jilltaylor

What she describes sounds similar to the psychedelic experience in some respects. Thoughts?


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: sam420]
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Ask Trendal. He could probably give us a pretty good idea.


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: WakeboardrB]
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I would say the rebuilding your brain sounds an AWFUL lot like tripping.

But tripping doesn't imply total blood and oxygen loss to the brain. If we had an infarction every time we tripped we would have a lot more problems. The mechanical process is not similar but the healing afterwards makes sense.


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: sam420]
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End of life processes are like trippping. My mom's last days were like a persistant trip, reliving memories and talking to people who are long dead... The nurses told us to expect it, and to just go along with it.

I could imagine a serious stroke could replicate some of those reactions.

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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: sam420]
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Well...

I wouldn't say that having a stroke is anything like tripping. Perhaps the confusion experienced during a stroke might be taken as the same confusion you get from psychedelics...but I think that's a bit of a stretch.

In the early stages, a stroke doesn't feel like anything. No pain, or at least too low to feel, at first. Specific brain functions (and it is different for everyone) are the first thing to go. I remember being really confused as to why my arm stopped moving the mouse around (I was on my computer). Then a wider range of functions begin to go. I was completely paralyzed on my right side by this point, and talking was getting very difficult (I kept thinking the right words, but saying the wrong ones). Still no pain. I remember getting to the hospital and a couple thing after that, but my short-term memory was going by then and wouldn't really come back for a good week.

So no, at no point during my stroke did I feel anything like a "trip".


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: trendal]
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Thanks.


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: sam420]
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I faint a lot and am concerned DMT would be a lot like it.

It's not pleasant. You feel this weird fuzzy electric feeling then suddenly are kind of happy (at least I am) and see a whole bunch of nonsensical blobs and weird things that you can barely make out then you wake up and are like "fuck, I fainted".

Hopefully being shot into hyperspace feels nothing like that.

Though I'm pretty sure dying, and having a stroke are similar. People who have strokes sometimes will faint a lot on that same day.


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: sam420]
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sam420 said:
*Really* interesting lecture by a neuro-scientist who had to rebuild her brain from scratch after having a stroke. (Some of you might have seen her story reported a couple of New Scientists ago).  She explains the experience in depth and from an expert's POV.  Just watch, trust-

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jilltaylor

What she describes sounds similar to the psychedelic experience in some respects.  Thoughts?


too much...
now u made me weep :eek:
the EXACT thing happened to me last yr ((still partially paralyzed)
it's all true.
now i just need to stop weeping...
look what u've done :sad:


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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mine wasn't so + tho....
no nirvana for me


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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but yes i did exp no-thought...


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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I stroke like 3 times a day


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: drok]
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Is it anything like tripping? :eek:


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: WakeboardrB]
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not really...
it's more freaky....
un-fun
kinda like the split second before fainting


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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i was given iv propofol in the icu n that was like trippin except more intense  n longer actin n freakier too


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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i could not talk properly, cause part of my mouth was paralyzed.....
freaky
i spoke, but the words did not come out.
i freaked :sad:


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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Sorry lucid, I was actually responding to drok.


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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Hey lucid, do you think that psychedelic drugs have played any part in your ill mental health?


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: psychejam]
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only thing i ever took was 1 bad shroom trip.
which might have raised my intracranial preassure n caused a stroke later on in life


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: lucid]
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I've been following your progress for a while, Lucid. You express honest emotion - a rare trait. I hope everything turns out well for you.

By the way, how old are you?


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Re: I wonder if having a stroke is like tripping.... [Re: psychejam]
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thanx :sun:
i feel lucky in the sense that if/when my limbs do come back
i'll prob be the happiest person on the planet :smile:


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