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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Yeah madtwon. You know your city is the birth place of nuclear science?

Fucking awesome.

Nader wants nuke power, too. Just to stay on topic. I really have no idea what Nader is running on.

Anyone care to inform?


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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Nader's platform basically consists of attempting to hand the election the Republican party on a platter, then sitting back for the next eight years and talking about how dumb the Democrats are for losing to John Mccain.

That's pretty much all you need to know.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Oh. No cool, innovative new policies or anything?

Just a dumbass fighting for a more diverse party system?

I like the idea of more parties, but partism would become the new racism/sexism. You know it would be like, "Don't talk to him, he's a communist."

You know, shit like that.


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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Well here is his stance when it comes to invading other countries while withdrawing from Iraq.

ABC News: Anti-War Obama Pushes Pakistan Invasion

www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3434573&page=1


This article on the other hand goes into detail about Obama's action or lack of in terms of supporting a withdraw of troops in Iraq.

OlsonOnline: Is Barack Obama really the "anti-war" candidate?


joesschool.blogs.com/olsononline/2006/12/is_barack_obama.html

As far as Nader's own platform is concerned he has many issues that the major candidates have left out. Including ending corporate welfare, backing renewable energy rescources, introducing a single payer health care system, withdrawing from Iraq, equal access for all canidates, as well as backing key environmental issues and civil rights issues that have been on hold since the times of Reagan.

One of the major issues Nader supports is also electoral reform if it had not been for the electoral college then Gore would have won in 2000. If the Democrats pushed for electoral reform there would be no talk of one candidate spoiling it for another. Our electoral system is a sham and yet the Democrats did not push for it's reform rather they used it as a justifcation to sweep a true progressive movement under the carpet.


Ralph Nader does not back a nuclear industry what so ever and I am sorry to hear any support for nuclear power on this board considering the degradation to the enviornment it causes and the fact that we have no idea what to do with it other than shove it under mountains and hope that by forgeting about it we some how solve a problem.

Mr. Nader excepts no donations from corporations so he is not at the hands of private interests unlike any other candidate fielded by the Democrats or Republicans. He would be a servant of the people as he has been since fighting for consumer rights since the sixties. The mere fact that Mr.Obama excepts corporate donations should be evidence enough that when push comes to shove private interests will bind him into supporting their needs over that of the people that he claims to support.

Edited by LaineRB (03/20/08 04:55 PM)

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: afoaf]
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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (02/13/21 04:42 PM)

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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Here is a fairly in depth interview of Mr. Nader's platform for this election. In which he even mentions the use of industrial hemp unlike Obama, Clinton or McCain.

http://www.grist.org/feature/2008/03/19/nader/

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: fireworks_god]
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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (02/13/21 04:42 PM)

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (02/13/21 04:43 PM)

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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It would be possible to impeach Bush if the congress hadn't given him the authority to use our military. It is a war that s lawful according to the costitution.

B-Rock has a long history of not backing laws (or impeahments) that would be uncostitutional or unlawful.

And in response to the article about Pakistan:

Why do you not support going after the terrorists that killed 3,000 of our fellow citizens? I understand the Iraq war may have dampened some spirits, but Al-Quida still needs to be dealt with.

The article talks about what he said in a debate. He spoke quite clearly. He said that he wants out of Iraq, then we can focus on Afghanistan and Al-Quida. He went on to say that he was displeased with the current admistrations policy towards Pakistan. He then was asked if he supported invading. He said no. If we had actionable intelligence on top Al-Quida officials in Pakistan, he would ask for help from their government. If we were told no, then, and only then, we would lead a strike targeting those indivduals.

How does this say we want to "invade" Pakistan? He only wants to do what the majority of Americans want, to avenge the deaths of our fellow countrymen and destroy an organization that spreads hate and death upon the world.


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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i think you fail to realize the land of the free also spreads hate and death, unless you bow down and accept our religion and ways of life.

Al-quida are probally seen as freedom fighters over there and maybe thats why them countrys are letting them hide out, and supplying them. Just a hunch

but im all for protecting americans, it just seems all the major canadates are focused on non-americans.

If they seriously wanted to protect/help us, im sure that 600 billion dollars could have gave every american body armor and a armored hummer.


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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: makaveli8x8]
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There are a few who see AQ as freedom fighters. Fortunately, enough don't that AQ is being routed in Iraq. They really are quite scummy.


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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: dill705]
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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: makaveli8x8]
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I understand completly. B-Rock didn't say take over the country, he said kill the people who killed us.

No invasion neccessary.

I also have the amazing ability to out myself in others shoes. I know I wouldn't like another country bombing terrorists in our mountains, but I wouldn't let our country let them hang out in our mountains either.

Also, one of B-Rocks biggest points is to use the billions of dollars spent on Iraq to better OUR country. I've seen more than half of the debates and know his positions with confidence.

He certainly wishes we would have stayed the fuck out of Iraq and help with Katrina alot more. On the campaign trail, he's even said that a big part of the national gaurd equipment that was needed after the hurriane was in Iraq.

Sounds like someone who knows we should be improving OUR country, instead of WRONGFULLY invading others.


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: LaineRB]
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I am so sick of Ralph Nader. It's this cocksucker's fault that George Bush got into office the first time. I wish he would just go away.


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Re: Nader Polling 6% [Re: StrandedVoyager]
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