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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
Dont be afraid of the changes.  The great thing about psychedelics is while it may cause you to change, it also gives you the self awareness to see these changes.  At this point in my life I consider myself to have complete control over my own mind.

Personally I don't think I was changed that much by tripping, buy my mind was pretty trippy to begin with.  What tripping did for me was put some sense to thoughts I'd been having since I was 5.  Sometimes it can be scary, being so aware of your own thoughts.  But as they say, Fear is the enemy :thumbup:

i cant seem to kick that fear, that's what makes me regret my journey.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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    guruu said:
    Dont be afraid of the changes. The great thing about psychedelics is while it may cause you to change, it also gives you the self awareness to see these changes. At this point in my life I consider myself to have complete control over my own mind.

    Personally I don't think I was changed that much by tripping, buy my mind was pretty trippy to begin with. What tripping did for me was put some sense to thoughts I'd been having since I was 5. Sometimes it can be scary, being so aware of your own thoughts. But as they say, Fear is the enemy :thumbup:


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i cant seem to kick that fear, that's what makes me regret my journey.


I was thinking a lot about this and in a way its made me regret it, but then again...

It mostly only happens when im by muself but sometimes i'll just be doing something and then I'll suddenly out of nowhere just become completely aware of what im thinking and what im doing, if you don't experience this then i guess you wnt reeli know wot im talking about. Sometimes it can be kinda weird but im sure I;ll find a way of using it to better my life.. either that or I'll just get used to it.. :laugh:


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Tomo]
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If you can work to make your life the life that you want, then I find the rest just seems to take care of itself.

It's a lot harder to come to peace with yourself when your life blows.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Tomo]
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Tomo said:
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    guruu said:
    Dont be afraid of the changes. The great thing about psychedelics is while it may cause you to change, it also gives you the self awareness to see these changes. At this point in my life I consider myself to have complete control over my own mind.

    Personally I don't think I was changed that much by tripping, buy my mind was pretty trippy to begin with. What tripping did for me was put some sense to thoughts I'd been having since I was 5. Sometimes it can be scary, being so aware of your own thoughts. But as they say, Fear is the enemy :thumbup:


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i cant seem to kick that fear, that's what makes me regret my journey.


I was thinking a lot about this and in a way its made me regret it, but then again...

It mostly only happens when im by muself but sometimes i'll just be doing something and then I'll suddenly out of nowhere just become completely aware of what im thinking and what im doing, if you don't experience this then i guess you wnt reeli know wot im talking about. Sometimes it can be kinda weird but im sure I;ll find a way of using it to better my life.. either that or I'll just get used to it.. :laugh:

that's exactly what im talking about.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Yeah you just have to practice ruthless self analysis. It can suck at first but once you know exactly who you are it's not that hard to become the person you want to be.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
If you can work to make your life the life that you want, then I find the rest just seems to take care of itself.

It's a lot harder to come to peace with yourself when your life blows.

i feel like i understand how life works for the mos t part. My life does blow currently. I loathe my job, douglasville is the root of all evil, and im struggling with understand how self destructive people live so peacefully. But i understand that those are not important, and that being able to just be is what's best, but i just cant come to terms with the fragility of the human being. My life could end tomorrow and this was it, that's all? That would suck ass in my opinion, i havent traveled to anywhere important or achieved any of my goals. That thought triggers fear in me.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Well something I've realized is that life is sort of tragic. We all die, and I'm not sure I'll ever be ready for that. But I do know that I have to ability, if I can muster up the balls to do it, to make my life great. And to me that's a comforting thought, even if at this very moment my life isn't all i know it could be.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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im totally who i am , and know who i am as a person. I've already gone through the process of self analyzing. All i do is analyze others now, trying to understand they seem to be content and be completely unaware of the cycles they go through, and unaware of others feelings. It's crazy to me that my life is what it is b/c of my location. Psychedelics made me aware of the world outside of the one i was used to, the real world so to speak. So that's an advantage for me, you would think. Unfortunately it hasnt helped my situation, if anything it's just made me more aware of how sucky the world is and how terrible be are to one another. Im just saying, it would be better if i were less aware. but now that ive done it, i have to keep pushing it for some reason.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Yeah once you're aware all you can do is keep pushing that awareness as far as it will go.

It's almost impossible for me to imagine what my life would be like if I hadn't been "turned on" to use hippy lingo, so I don't even think about it really.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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ts727 described it perfectly. I've been having trouble deciding if I should trip anymore. Sometimes I love the insight tripping has given me, but other times I totally despise it. I really don't know if I'll trip again.

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Fruitboot]
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i always say i wont again and then i do. It takes me like a week of preparation to trip. Ive low dosed the last few times and i think im on to something.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Low doses are good, but every once in a while the boat needs to be pushed out all the way with a heroic dose! :mushroom2:


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"Our progress as a species rests squarely on the shoulders of that tenth person. The nine are satisfied with things they are told are valuable. Person 10 determines for himself what has value." - My good friend Za -

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said:
Low doses are good, but every once in a while the boat needs to be pushed out all the way with a heroic dose! :mushroom2:


yup.

I stick mainly too low doses for enlightenment about my own life and stuff like that. It's a fun and sometimes powerful experience.

Once I go over 4 grams though, or more than a few hits of good acid...shit gets cosmic.


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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Yea, I think I'm going to give solo tripping a try next time...maybe that will be a good push in the right direction.

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Fruitboot]
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Fruitboot said:
Yea, I think I'm going to give solo tripping a try next time...maybe that will be a good push in the right direction.


That's what I thought...5 grams, 2 weeks of questioning my sanity, and 6 months of abstaining from tripping later, yeah it definitely made me a better person :lol:


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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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I would probably do between 2.5 and 3.5 grams.

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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ts727 said:
im totally who i am , and know who i am as a person. I've already gone through the process of self analyzing. All i do is analyze others now, trying to understand they seem to be content and be completely unaware of the cycles they go through, and unaware of others feelings. It's crazy to me that my life is what it is b/c of my location. Psychedelics made me aware of the world outside of the one i was used to, the real world so to speak. So that's an advantage for me, you would think. Unfortunately it hasnt helped my situation, if anything it's just made me more aware of how sucky the world is and how terrible be are to one another. Im just saying, it would be better if i were less aware. but now that ive done it, i have to keep pushing it for some reason.


I know exactly what your saying. I feel that everyone who hasnt had a real psychedelic experience is like "ignorant " to the real truth, the real way and meanings of life. When i say ignorant i dont mean it in the insultin way that it is most commonly connected with, but rather just to mean they dont know any better. I see society as almost robots going along with their day to day activities never questioning anything, and never having had a taste of this altered view that all of us that have "seen the light" have.

Ignorance it bliss, it really is. I sometimes wish i could be how i was before my experiences. That feeling always fades, but i do sometimes feel like it would be better to be this "ignorant robot" and just live a normal life, something i will never be able to do now. However, with 2 years since my first experience coming up, i would NEVER EVER EVER change the decisions ive made. I am a completely difference person then i was before. I am so much more in touch with my true self, and love that. I know myself more then i ever have before, and i love the way i understand life now.

While i enjoy the changes for the most part, i cannot help times at night sitting in bed when i feel like i am losing is, and my grip on reality is getting looser. I also cannot help to think of what my life would be like had i never "seen the light", and i dont think that wonder will go away until the day i die.

To put it in hippie terms i have definitely turned on, am still tuning in, and morally, mentally, and physically on the path to dropping out. But i still question whether or not i should have ever turned on

Edited by NothingIsReal (03/09/08 11:40 PM)

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
Fruitboot said:
Yea, I think I'm going to give solo tripping a try next time...maybe that will be a good push in the right direction.


That's what I thought...5 grams, 2 weeks of questioning my sanity, and 6 months of abstaining from tripping later, yeah it definitely made me a better person :lol:


Yeah my first acid trip was with 1 person who, on the come up when i tried talking to him told me "dude, this isnt a talking drug". I was basically on my own. It took me over a year to really get over that trip. However on my last trip with mushrooms i went into a dark room by myself in total silence for about 45 mins and it was the most amazing time i have ever had tripping so idk. I plan to trip completely on my own in about 2 months when i can

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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: NothingIsReal]
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NothingIsReal said:
ts727 said:
im totally who i am , and know who i am as a person. I've already gone through the process of self analyzing. All i do is analyze others now, trying to understand they seem to be content and be completely unaware of the cycles they go through, and unaware of others feelings. It's crazy to me that my life is what it is b/c of my location. Psychedelics made me aware of the world outside of the one i was used to, the real world so to speak. So that's an advantage for me, you would think. Unfortunately it hasnt helped my situation, if anything it's just made me more aware of how sucky the world is and how terrible be are to one another. Im just saying, it would be better if i were less aware. but now that ive done it, i have to keep pushing it for some reason.


I know exactly what your saying. I feel that everyone who hasnt had a real psychedelic experience is like "ignorant " to the real truth, the real way and meanings of life. When i say ignorant i dont mean it in the insultin way that it is most commonly connected with, but rather just to mean they dont know any better. I see society as almost robots going along with their day to day activities never questioning anything, and never having had a taste of this altered view that all of us that have "seen the light" have.

Ignorance it bliss, it really is. I sometimes wish i could be how i was before my experiences. That feeling always fades, but i do sometimes feel like it would be better to be this "ignorant robot" and just live a normal life, something i will never be able to do now. However, with 2 years since my first experience coming up, i would NEVER EVER EVER change the decisions ive made. I am a completely difference person then i was before. I am so much more in touch with my true self, and love that. I know myself more then i ever have before, and i love the way i understand life now.

While i enjoy the changes for the most part, i cannot help times at night sitting in bed when i feel like i am losing is, and my grip on reality is getting looser. I also cannot help to think of what my life would be like had i never "seen the light", and i dont think that wonder will go away until the day i die.

To put it in hippie terms i have definitely turned on, am still tuning in, and morally, mentally, and physically on the path to dropping out. But i still question whether or not i should have ever turned on

that's the most accurate description of my life ever. if you can understand that you can understand me. +5


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: thought process change from psychadelics? [Re: PreparationH]
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Thanks for posting. This topic is constantly on my mind of late. I've lost track of how many times I've taken LSD but I know that if I added up my psilocybin, LSD and DMT experiences all together it would be well over 100. And now, life is incredibly overwhelming and intense all of the time. Would I trade that in for anything? Nah...

All this usage has certainly changed the way that I think. That's why I liked it the first time and that is why I continue to like it. It is the opening up of new perspectives that makes the psychedelic experience as valuable to me as it is...sure, I over-analyze in my daily life. But who's to say I wouldn't have gotten this way without LSD? I mean, it's sort of a moot point, you know?

To some my friends and loved ones that don't trip as often as I do or don't trip at all, it seems that I've already done too much and that I do it too often. The thing is, I just have faith in my mental capacities and my psychological makeup to keep doing psychedelics. I truly feel that psychedelics, unlike other drugs, it quite clear to the user when they shouldn't be done anymore. I find that in times when I abuse them, the experiences reflect that.

Psychedelic drugs can do a lot for you, but to continue doing them frequently in a healthy manner I think a person really needs to learn how to integrate what they learn from their experiences into their everyday sober lives...otherwise, you could be doing yourself a lot of damage.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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