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Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips?
    #8098869 - 03/03/08 08:09 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Alright, so I've finally been getting into the hailed Psilocybin--tripped moderately well on a couple grams a few months back, and this past week fairly hard on an eighth. The greatest thing that I've been having fun with on these have been the visuals... my traditional psychedelic of choice has been HBWR seeds, and although both get me to exactly the same place in terms of ego dissolution and seeing the Light that is both everything and nothing at the same time, open-eyed visuals have been decidedly lacking with all LSA-compounds that I've tried. The sheer amazing quality of the visions produced by the magic mushrooms simply floors me.

Consequently, I'm probably looking to attempt McKenna's heroic dose with 7 g's of mushies in a dark closet, no music whatsoever. I'm looking for some good meditation tips, as I've heard from multiple sources that even a simple exercise such as concentrating on one's breathing can vastly improve the quality and what you get out of a trip. Any suggestions?

Also, in the future (once I've probably waited a month or so to integrate/analyze/reflect on the 7 g trip), I most likely will experiment with adding Syrian Rue into the mix, as I've had great success with mixing it with HBWR seeds. I've heard from some people that this actually decreases the quality of open eyed visuals, though, even though it makes the mental trip stronger. As I can get a mental trip any time from HBWR's, I'd prefer to maximize any kind of visual that I can--what have your experiences been with Psilohuasca visuals?


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: deCypher]
    #8098942 - 03/03/08 08:26 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

perhaps you should try 7 grams with a sitter and possibly a few friends before this.

I dont think you understand how potent this will be it isnt just double the force it feels more like 4 times because not only are the visauls and auditory hallucinations amplified but the mind fuck is absolutly insane.

A qaurter is wonderfull but I have only run into problems doing it alone, and this was after i had already taken a qaurter or more and had taken several eigths.

I dont know you or what you can handle but If you want to do this I suggest testing the waters first.

To this day i have yet to repeat a 7+ gram dose.  For strong trips i use ayahausca because it has a shorter duration and less confusion.

Good luck.:borat:


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8098965 - 03/03/08 08:31 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I can just barely handle 7 grams.. but not inside a dark closet.


I have a sharper image sleep machine with meditation noises, beach noises, nature noises ect. If you have one of those, i find it helps clear the mind during meditation.. not while shrooming though. For me, meditating while shrooming... forget it. My mind goes a billion miles a second.

Visuals for me come much easier while getting really close to an object and looking it at. Fuzzy carpets are my favorite.

Good luck brave psychonaut.


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: anyone420]
    #8099116 - 03/03/08 09:00 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

screw the closet idea, that sounds very uncomfortable.

For me I just lay on the ground face down, or put my face into a pillow. Works great, but I like to have music on as I get bored or paranoid with pure silence.


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: deCypher]
    #8099146 - 03/03/08 09:07 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I don't enjoy the combo of rue with mushrooms. It really cloud up the trip.

I took 3 grams (which would usually get me pretty far) with about 3 grams of rue, and the beauty in the trip was gone. I just threw up a lot, and I was really hazy the whole time. I didn't think about anything. It felt more like I was drunk than an actual trip.

So, I wouldn't really reccomend rue with mushrooms. Especially 7 grams. That might just be me though...

And as for the visuals with psilohuasca, they weren't any after the first 30 minutes for me. The first 30 minutes, my CEVs were spectacular. Everything after that was just different looking, but no visuals to speak of after the come-up.



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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #8101813 - 03/04/08 04:19 PM (13 years, 22 hours ago)

McKenna says take 5 grams dried in silent darkness, not seven.


AND DO NOT TAKE 7 GRAMS WITH SYRIAN RUE.

2 max for a first time. Seriously.


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #8101896 - 03/04/08 04:39 PM (13 years, 22 hours ago)

word, I also remember 5g being the "heroic dose".


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: lemonjello]
    #8101916 - 03/04/08 05:12 PM (13 years, 21 hours ago)

Yeah, I can verify the intensity of a 7g dose. Like you, the highest dose I ever did was an eighth, then I tried 7g's and it destroyed me. I literally could not control the situation at all. A psilocybin rush is almost unbearable after the first 10-15 minutes when you're dealing with 7g's...It blew me out of the water.

It's fun though after a while, you will probably want a sitter though. Just a warning...


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #8101918 - 03/04/08 05:17 PM (13 years, 21 hours ago)

Heh... not planning on combining the full seven grams with rue as I know full well what kind of power that entheogen combination can unleash :P

@tyler_0_durden: When you say seven grams of mushrooms "destroyed" you... do you mean that you had an exceedingly bad trip, or just that the experience was incredibly overwhelming?

With regards to handling the intensity of the experience, I'm planning to just subject myself to it wholly with no reservations; complete and unconditional surrender to the will of the mushroom gods :laugh:


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: deCypher]
    #8102293 - 03/04/08 07:12 PM (13 years, 19 hours ago)

The most important moment of my life was when I took a large dose with a blindfold and earplugs in my darkened bedroom. On a side note, I think I was totally nuts when I finally managed to get out of there. I have a note I left to myself from immediately after I got out of my bedroom. Absolutely bat shit crazy scattered stuff that its hard for me to believe came out of me. But I remember...


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: fushock]
    #8102360 - 03/04/08 07:23 PM (13 years, 19 hours ago)

I'm planning to don a blindfold and earplugs likewise... how long would you say a 7 gram dose will last from start to finish? I'm considering powderizing the shrooms and letting soak in a glass of lemonade.


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: deCypher]
    #8104087 - 03/05/08 01:39 AM (13 years, 13 hours ago)

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Heh... not planning on combining the full seven grams with rue as I know full well what kind of power that entheogen combination can unleash :P

@tyler_0_durden: When you say seven grams of mushrooms "destroyed" you... do you mean that you had an exceedingly bad trip, or just that the experience was incredibly overwhelming?




Definitely overwhelming...it's kind of like the feeling of somebody tugging you by the ear, except by the balls. I couldn't handle the come-up, though I've had a faster and stronger come-up on acid, it was just more gentle with LSD.

It didn't give me a bad trip, but man oh man was I high as shit.


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Re: Seven grams of mushrooms + dark closet... Meditation / syrian rue tips? [Re: deCypher]
    #8104092 - 03/05/08 01:40 AM (13 years, 13 hours ago)

mushrooms and rue make you vibrate sometimes btw. any who noise canceling head phones are amazing and i like to go into a cove. its intense. i think that will last a good while


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