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Offlinekadakuda
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A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :)
    #8026925 - 02/15/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If doing scrog and penetration seems to be *less* of a worry (or maybe more..?) would it then be ok to use fluoro instead? specically CFL style. I know many people dislike them, and others say they are ok.

my question is, is teh weker penetration of fluoro ok in a SCROG style grow? much cooler.


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8028294 - 02/15/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

t8 shop lights could work if you had enough of them

theres also such thing as an hid flouro, basically a cfl thats 125-200 watts, self ballasted, and it plugs into a standard socket

a good one might set u back about $50-70, and is much cooler than the hid counterpart


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8028675 - 02/15/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have a couple of CFL's that are 150W and cost me $12 a piece, they're good for the price and plug into a regular socket


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: casgoodie]
    #8029600 - 02/15/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

but do they put out the same? there are larger wattage ones here but i dont they they are "High Intensity". there are pretty cheap 75W ones here but they are only 65L/W....tubes are better.

so the light penetration is -ok- with fluoros for this kind of grow?

i know that the plants will grow....they will grow under 2 24" walmart bulbs...but i mean will the product still be excellent?


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: casgoodie]
    #8029763 - 02/16/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i have a couple of CFL's that are 150W and cost me $12 a piece, they're good for the price and plug into a regular socket



really? could u pm me the vendor? im gonna need some of these soon


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8029917 - 02/16/08 01:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i don't think any CFL is good enough for growing good herb. if you're going to use fluoros for weed i say the high output T5's are your best bet


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: casgoodie]
    #8030214 - 02/16/08 05:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oK my last grow i did under 5 75 watt cfl's and it came out some of the best bud i have smoked, everything was the same as under the hps except the bottom branches did not get alot of light and started to turn yellow so i moved it around so that they got more light.

this pic is when it started to flower under the cfl's


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: royer]
    #8032201 - 02/16/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ya the only real disadvantages of flouros is that the light doesnt penetrate as well, its better for plants that are sensitive to direct sunlight

prolly the best method for ganja with cfls would be scrog


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8034214 - 02/17/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so for scrog (which was the original question) it is intense enough?

royers pic seems pretty good. and i also have some more wicked fluroscent bulbs for animals and such.


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8034531 - 02/17/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

with scrog you dont really need as much intensity, as penetration isnt as much of an issue


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8035111 - 02/17/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes it's intense enough to work. The more light the better though because otherwise bud tends to be airy if grown with flouro's.


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: kadakuda]
    #8036396 - 02/18/08 01:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just remember you need nearly triple the wattage in floro's. A 75 watt MH or HPS would be as good a 200 watt cfl in the amount of light delivered to the plants.

If you must grow with floro's try one of these http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=901889




gonna be to get something like this with floro's


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Re: A question for all you HPS/MH lovers aka Fluoro haters :) [Re: Magash]
    #8036414 - 02/18/08 01:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

=O---

bud porn lol


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