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POT SHOTS: 150wHPS/100wMH grow cab: HARVEST PICTURES!!
    #2407640 - 03/08/04 05:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The setup is near completion...we just need to install our ventilation system which will consist of two 80mm computer fans for an intake near the bottom (pictured below) and two more 80mm fans for an exhaust near the top. Currently we have an 80mm fan that hangs from the HPS reflector and an air purifier blowing over the plants, this really has helped to develop some strong main stems. Also, we are adding a 100W MH for flowering, this should really help because we will probably will be flowering at least 3-4 plants (out of 8) and a 150W hps would not be sufficient by itself. Well, now that you know a bit about our setup, take a look at these pictures and give me some comments!! :wink:








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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2407686 - 03/08/04 05:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

very cool. thanks for sharing


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2408215 - 03/08/04 07:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm getting a 200w HPS soon, i'll be growing two maybe three plants under it...
Cool setup though


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2413189 - 03/10/04 01:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

reflective white paint/tin-foil my friend. Can't be letting all those rays of light that the HPS is putting out go to waste.

You should also get some CO2 to those plants, so talk to them every day.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: SpaceCadet]
    #2414442 - 03/10/04 12:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, right now we have an emergency blanket in there which reflects about 25% better than foil, however, we are soon putting in some mylar because we do need every last lumen of that bulb to hit those plants.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: SpaceCadet]
    #2420220 - 03/11/04 07:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Tin foil is bad.  Use white paint or emergency blankets.  Tin foil can cause hot-spots and actually burn your plants!

Here WAS my 400w HPS with a cool tube and 285CFM dayton blower.  Clone/veg room and electrical room.  Dual 6" 24v DC fans in the flower box, top and bottom.  Couple fan on the inside to strengthen stems and move more air around.  That thing was pimp.  :frown:





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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: crazychemist]
    #2420393 - 03/11/04 08:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nice! :thumbup: :stash:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: crazychemist]
    #2420940 - 03/11/04 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

good setup man, very bushy plants, are they in the budding stage under that 400

what was your soil mix?


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: boomer420]
    #2427702 - 03/13/04 04:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They just started to bud under the 400w HPS.  They were started under fluoros and moved to HPS.  Soil mix was 1 part soil, 1 part perilite with some calcium with the soil for pH balance.  It is a good mix.

And on another note I agree that those plants need to be transplanted.  Get them into some big pots, they love the room. :smile:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: crazychemist]
    #2427714 - 03/13/04 04:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Is the cooling tube nessecary for high pressure light?

Or is it for fresh air exchange or a little bit of both


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: boomer420]
    #2427848 - 03/13/04 05:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The plants in the small cups were transplanted into 6" pots today, the soil mixture we are using is 2 parts peat 1 part perlite and 1 part vermiculite, nice loose soiless mix, should promote lots of healthy root growth. We plan on transplanting the bigger ones into 3 gallon pots any day now, just recieved the 100MH in the mail today and we are going to throw it in there and begin flowering in a week or so, I will post some updates soon, the plants have really grown since the last set of pics, peace.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: boomer420]
    #2428202 - 03/13/04 07:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The blower and cool tube are just to cool the light.  400w is a lot for a box that size.  You can leave your hand on the cool tube for as long as you want and you don't get burned.  :smile:  It is a 4" bread tube I got off ebay called a bake-a-round.  I think it was $15.  The blower was $85 though.  I liked it a lot temps were always below 80F.  :smile:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2482409 - 03/30/04 01:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The plants are now 1 week into flower, one male was identified and taken out which sucks because it was a nice big plant. A 100 watt MH was added to provide extra light for flowering, we also intend on putting up more reflective material. More fans will be added soon because temps are hitting 85-90 at some points due to the heat around here. The two big plants on the left have both been topped and are comming along nicely. All of the plants are now planted in a soiless mix that consists of 2 parts peat moss, 1 part vermiculite, and 1 part perlite. We used superthrive during the transplants and used fertilizer once, I am going to get some fish emulsion with kelp as well to finish them off with. Hopefully the budsites start forming soon! Peace.







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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2482558 - 03/30/04 03:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i saw in your first post that u use a fan on both inhaust and exhaust, that isnt a great idea actually, it will work better with only fan on exhaust , main reason is because it doesnt give the air movement you really want in your grow room and also you most likely has odor leak at your intake.

other than that it looks ok.

6" pots are also small imo tho, i use 10" , the bigger pots the bigger buds simple as that but thats not a must.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: shriek]
    #2482765 - 03/30/04 06:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering somthing with this whole light business. I was going to get 2 400watt floru's (for veging and flowering). but the more i read i see everone only use's them for veging. Money is always a concern and i can get the 400watt for 40 bucks each. So what type of light will get me through the whole process for a resonable price? I will be trying 6-8 plants for my first time and have a whole basement to use if i ned the space. thnx in advance-LJ


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2482785 - 03/30/04 06:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

im nor sure if you need to register as member to view this link but http://yahooka.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53398 . read trough that before choosin light

and since you first there ; http://yahooka.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54174  not about lights but one of better growlog threads :smile:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2483122 - 03/30/04 10:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hps vs floro => hps wins
hps is superior in just about every way including $ to floros.
you can get a 150w+ hps going for <$80
either get a 150w hps secuirty light from lowes or order the ballast bulb and mogel etc from www.1000bulbs.com for much cheaper


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Eightball]
    #2484387 - 03/30/04 06:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thnx for everyone's help(didn't mean to thread jack). That was by far the best piece i have read on lighting since i have thought about doing this,thnx shriek.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2485015 - 03/30/04 09:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Five gallon buckets make great platers man.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Eightball]
    #2487557 - 03/31/04 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with the 1000bulbs.com reference. I built my 400w HPS from stratch with a batwing reflector for under $150. 1000bulbs.com is sweet.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2529795 - 04/06/04 12:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The plants are now 2 weeks into flower and we have fertilized once so far. They all seem to be doing just fine and there is barely any leaf curling or discoloration of any type. We started with 8 plants, 2 died and 2 were males. Sadly the 2 males were the unknown nuggets, but the remaining 4 plants are all from bomb midgrade bagseed. We have 1 large plant that has been topped then 3 smaller ones, as you can see the topped plant is developing bud sites like crazy. I only took pictures of 3 of the plants by the way, peace.



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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2530010 - 04/06/04 02:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

can you get bulbs from 1000bulbs with a money order?


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2533316 - 04/07/04 12:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Lookin sexy! Good job, I hope the rest goes smooth for you.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2552612 - 04/13/04 12:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The plants are now 3 weeks into flower, I just wanted to show how much more the buds have developed in only a week. They all seem to be doing just fine in their enviroment, the next pics will be in a while when there is some hardcore buds...peace. :crazy2:

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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2553577 - 04/13/04 09:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Looking good, man :smile:


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Growing Questions [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2555436 - 04/13/04 05:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

General Reply
I have a ? on growing.  I have a 175 watt Mercury Vapor light, which I know can be replaced with a $30 175W Metal Hallide for vegetative growth.  I also have 4 compact fluoros (30w very warm(red)).  I would eventually want to use cool (blue) fluoros for seedling, MH for veg, and get a HPS for flowering.  Right now my budget is quite limited, so I was wondering if the Mercury light would be usable.  I know it's not the best, but I would like to wait to purchase a MH bulb.  I was thinking I'd use the compact fluoros for veg growth then use the Mercury vapor for flowering.  Or should I just have all the lights on throughout the growth cycle?  These lights would be setup in an old dresser that I'm converting into a small one-plant grow chamber (175w MV is a bit overpowered, but I got a good deal on the ballast and bulb as a securtiy light).  Would a few computer fans be enough to keep the lights cool?  Should I set them all up as intakes with passive vents for outtake?

I don't mean to jack your thread, just wanted a quick answer on if the Mercury Vapor is worth using.  Nice plants :wink:.


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Re: Growing Questions [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2555568 - 04/13/04 06:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

As far as I know...you don't want to use MV's because they get really hot and don't put out as many lumens per watt as other lights. And if you are trying to keep heat out of your grow space make the intake passive and use a fan for the exhaust.


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POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2555676 - 04/13/04 06:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you. I think I'll just spend the extra $ and get a MH bulb. How long do you think you will flower your plants for? Are you going by a set time period, or judging it by the look of your plants?


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2555900 - 04/13/04 07:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, they are all bagseed so I will probably just wait until I am satisfied with the looks of them, so far I am happy with the progress. But who knows...these plants could possibly even go two months flower.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2558095 - 04/14/04 08:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Good stuff, alot better than my experiences. right on keep growin'

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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: shep69]
    #2622651 - 04/30/04 06:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Going on 5 weeks 3 days now and the buds are really starting to form, temps are hitting 90 which really sucks but theres not much we can do about it at this point. The way these plants are going I think they need another couple weeks before harvest. Enjoy the pictures! :smirk:







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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2623022 - 04/30/04 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely keep those babies running for a couple/few more weeks.  Buds will put out the most growth towards the end of their cycle so you should try to wait as long as possible. 

Do yourself a favor and get a $2.50 jeweler's loupe (small magnifying glass) at least 20 to 30x magnification.  Then use that to view the trichoms (resin) on the plant.  Trichoms typically progress from translucent, to milky, to amber or red.  The prime harvest time is in between the beginning of the milky stage and the beginning of the last amber or red stage depending on personal preference, as harvesting towards the later end can result in a more 'weighty' aka couchlock stone.

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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2623043 - 04/30/04 08:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

absolutely gorgeous... thanks for sharing!  :eyemouth:


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    #2623399 - 04/30/04 10:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: failbot999]
    #2623732 - 05/01/04 12:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

a good way to find out when to harvest is to watch the trichomes. first they will be clear at this stage they are not as potent and you will have less yield. then they turn more cloudy, if harvesting at this stage the bud will give them a more energic high. then they turn amber, at this point the buds will be more narcotic in the high. when they are 50/50 cloudy and amber, this is now you want to harvest them, the buds will now produce a more combined body\head high.

just noticed geokills allready answered this :smile:

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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: shriek]
    #2624031 - 05/01/04 01:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

> just noticed geokills allready answered this

Hehe, I was just about to ask if there was an echo in here :smirk: :tongue2::spliff:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: geokills]
    #2624541 - 05/01/04 05:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The plants have only been fertilized 3 times throughout the whole growing process, we used an unknown synthentic fertilizer sample that came with my HPS. We also used superthrive two times for the transplants. I am buying some fish emulsion with kelp so I can fertilize a few more times before harvest. My next grow will be organics all the way for sure, and now I have some actual good strains to play around with. :thumbup:


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: failbot999]
    #2624746 - 05/01/04 08:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

^^ amen, everything i grow from weed to squash get 100% organic food, i dont even have chemicals close to any plant


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: shriek]
    #2750317 - 05/31/04 06:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here are pictures of the 3 of the 4 plants picked and trimed, we got impatient and have already smoked the smallest plant (only an 8th), after drying it for only a few days. They look good for just being midgrade bagseed, and they get you realllll stoned! :thumbup: Enjoy the pics!

(plants #1 and #2)



(Plant #2)

(Plant #3 minus a few bowls)

(Plant #1 tops)

(plants #1 and #2 trimed)


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2750399 - 05/31/04 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thansk man great pics


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: the man]
    #2750449 - 05/31/04 07:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What was the total yield?


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: TheCow]
    #2750466 - 05/31/04 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't know yet, the buds still have to be dried, but I would have to guess maybe 20-25 g's.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: shriek]
    #2753744 - 06/01/04 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nice grow there cubieman!
Try 5 gallon buckets next time, make suer they can drain when you water, and bump your feeding up. Organics are a great Idea.
FoxFarm makes a good organic 1 step fert, that you can get online.
Keep up the good work, man!
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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: GreenNinja]
    #4999029 - 11/30/05 05:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

is it seeded or sensi
looks good slightly early
you should use the screen of green technique to increse you yeild per meter and a veg chamber and a cloneing chamber to have perpetual harvest may then also want seperate or bigger generative chamber
sorry to many pages too read what the strain


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Millennium]
    #4999531 - 11/30/05 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sorry to many pages too read what the strain




Note that this post is from well over a year ago.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Millennium]
    #4999536 - 11/30/05 07:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

millennium this thread is a year old :p

strain - bagseed
and its sensi


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: krishnamurti]
    #4999550 - 11/30/05 07:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

omg I said that over one minute ago!11


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab (UPDATE) [Re: Organic]
    #5015372 - 12/04/05 10:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok shit sorry


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Millennium]
    #5021751 - 12/06/05 04:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Man why top? Anyone with any compentence in pruning doesn't top.


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Re: POT SHOTS: 150W HPS grow cab [Re: Fluxburn]
    #5029125 - 12/07/05 05:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

true bending and trianing is much easier on the plants however the lost art of vim or fim topping may still be woth while
on cutt = up to 8 brances best way to establish mother from from a known plant
if u pinch seedling at 2 weeks and in anther 2 weeks clone one branch for sexing untill detirmined then you could train for many branches to clone from her


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