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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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EternalCowabunga said:
americans are spelling doom for their country if they don't vote for ron paul, just sayin'


thats a matter of opinion - and not my opinion.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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that's true. i do worry about someone like clinton or mccain being elected though. that would be bad for the world.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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So you rather force an entire local population that share the consensus that abortion is murder to conform to your beliefs rather than have a woman who consciously made the decision to have sex while within a state that does not allow abortion to have to take a bus out of state.

Personally I think abortion is abhorrent but it should be legal. However it is an issue that you will never be able to convince the two opposite sides to agree on. That's why it would be best in my opinion that government reflect the majority of those on the local level.



Stossel:"You want a 700-mile fence between our border and Mexico?"

Ron Paul: "Not really. There was an immigration bill that had a fence (requirement) in it, but it was to attack amnesty. I don't like amnesty. So I voted for that bill, but I didn't like the fence. I don't think the fence can solve a problem. I find it rather offensive."

He has continually said that illegal immigrants are the scapegoats but it is the subsidies and government hand outs that cause the problem.


You have said that your not comfortable that he gets support from KKK organisations... That is an ad hominem / formal falacy argument.

Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is false

That's like saying:
Hitler was for abortion for non-Aryan women, eugenics, euthanasia
Hitler was a sick murdering despot.
Therefore abortion, eugenics, euthanasia is wrong.

You can't control what other people do that might agree with certain aspects of what you believe.

If you had ever actually heard Ron Paul or seen video of him talk like someone did in those letters that would be one thing, but the fact is no one has ever heard him talk like that. Even the president of the local NAACP in Austin, TX said he met Ron Paul 20 years ago and knew he was not a racist. How easy would it be for someone to write something you disagree with in your name in this day in age?

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: DieSpectra]
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"That being said - Dennis Kusinich wanted 'real change' and thats why he can never be elected. "

Suppose Ron Paul is a racist.
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are friends.
Thus Dennis Kucinich is a racist.

See?

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: DieSpectra]
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The eyes will get to you eventually.

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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EternalCowabunga said:
that's true. i do worry about someone like clinton or mccain being elected though. that would be bad for the world.


No it won't. The people you mention are corrupt greedy hypocrites. The best kind of politician IMO. The ones who really fuck things up for the world are the ones with a mission to reform it.

Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot all wanted to make this world a better place.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: nolongerinuse]
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easy now.
RP is wrong for many reasons to me(And many others) - no matter how frothy you get, im coming around to your POV.
so, wipe your mouth, and be quiet.

BTW- if you don't have ovaries - i really dont care what your opinion is on womens issues.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: koppie]
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That is a fair comparison.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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While I agree with the opinion that men shouldn't have as much a say in the issue of abortion, I think there are other important things to be considered when deciding on a presidential candidate.

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: DieSpectra]
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DieSpectra said:
"That being said - Dennis Kusinich wanted 'real change' and thats why he can never be elected. "

Suppose Ron Paul is a racist.
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are friends.
Thus Dennis Kucinich is a racist.

See?


DK IS not receiving money from the KKK, 'k?


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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Caribou_Lou said:
honestly I'm not even going to vote.. I don't really care who wins, I was going to vote for ron paul but I decided not to because it's too much work :lol:


Haven't read the rest of the thread yet... but... this is what's wrong with America, right here.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: BurningBeard]
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agreed.

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: nolongerinuse]
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absolutely - the original point was why I didn't like RP- his abortion views are just 1 of several issues i disagree with.
and his party affiliation.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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I honestly don't even see how Ron Paul is a republican, to be honest.

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: nolongerinuse]
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to make sure he has a shot at winning.
when was the last Libertarian or Green voted into office?


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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A good point, but still, how can you be against the Federal Reserve and claim republican??

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
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Fuck party affiliation! That's another huge problem... we're essentially a bipartisan mess. Why can't people realize it's okay to think outside of the box? Oh... I remember now... because humans are narrow-minded and very few really want change (something RP represents for us).

The above point about Hitler and others wanting a better world...

Stagnancy is our worst enemy... and when you stagnate on a railroad track waiting for the inevitable train to hit you, that's when you need to get smart and fucking move.

Just my $0.02.


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: nolongerinuse]
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it's like sticking a clam in a slot machine - it aint pretty, but you can do it.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: BurningBeard]
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BurningBeard said:
Fuck party affiliation! That's another huge problem... we're essentially a bipartisan mess. Why can't people realize it's okay to think outside of the box? Oh... I remember now... because humans are narrow-minded and very few really want change (something RP represents for us).

The above point about Hitler and others wanting a better world...

Stagnancy is our worst enemy... and when you stagnate on a railroad track waiting for the inevitable train to hit you, that's when you need to get smart and fucking move.

Just my $0.02.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul. [Re: nolongerinuse]
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i respect that opinion.
at least it sounds passionate.
i am a libersocialdemo-voter - I am a registered democrat, cause that other one is not a choice
:stoner:


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