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Sublingual LSA
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Some of this info was taken from this page:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6054803#6054803

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I was browing the site about lsa and such and came across this bit of info. There are 3 side-effects of LSA

1) vasoconstriction
2)nausea
3)sedation.
Medically speaking, the first is the dangerous one.
MG and HBWR seeds contain ergot alkaloids, which are very potent vasoconstrictors.

Some ways that I found to avoid this are:

"Drinking ginger ale
hydrate yourself before taking seeds.
Just make sure you drink water consistently the day before and the day of dosing. Bottled water
The Water will help thin your blood a bit, making the constriction not as much of an issue.
take an aspirin before dosing, that will futher thin your blood a bit and help with any pain during the ride. The reason you get cramping is because with your veins and blood vessels constricted, your system is not as efficent with removing lactic acid (muscle wastes from improper break down of TPP and basic sugars caused by lack of oxygen).
Stretch before dosage"

The safest method of preperation that I have found is the Sublingual method:

mash 4 seeds with a hammer and a rock.
put the powder in a shot glass and add a teaspoon of cold water -- stir.
add a squeeze of lime juice and some sugar, stir, and shovel that whole mess into my mouth.
hold onto the mixture for 15 minutes
Spit out

What are your views on this method? Does it work for all LSA containing seeds? I also heard that if you want to dose 4 seeds for example use 6 for the sublingual method.

I feel that 120 seeds for morrning glory is a safe starting dose, and for the HBW about 5. Not sure on the Corymbosa, i saw some dosing about it earlier, Ill find it again.

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Thanks for reading and possibly this method will help from the negative effects of lsa. :smile:


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Edited by Nalim (01/25/08 05:32 AM)

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Rappenstein]
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Quote:
hold onto the mixture for 15 minutes


wow, good luck. let me know how it turns out lol.

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Rappenstein]
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It works. :thumbup:

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: usg543]
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I've used morning glory seeds probably a dozen or so times. I find them to be amazing; but they're practically worthless if you don't smoke some weed or hash while you're on them - it takes away the nausea & greatly amplifies the effects.

The alkaloids also cause muscle aches; I'm not sure why. Eating one or two bananas when you dose will almost completely nullify the muscle pains (due to the potassium in them).

I used to just grind up between 150 and 400 MG seeds in a coffee grinder & eat them; but the side effects that way were horrible; and once you've done MG seeds a few times, the taste alone will make your stomach lurch. The best route of ingestion, in my opinion, is as follows-

-Use twice as many MG seeds as you would if you were going to eat them, as this is much less potent, but the virtual nullification of side effects is worth it.
-Grind seeds in a coffee grinder
-Put an ounce or two of vodka in a small mason jar
-Add ground up seed powder & shake/stir to moisten all of it
-Let sit for 10 minutes or so
-Add a volume of cold water about 2x that of the volume of vodka you used
-Put lid on jar & keep shaking it vigorously every couple of minutes for about half an hour
-Get 2nd jar & coffee filter
-Filter off the solids & throw them away
-Drink the liquid. I don't think it tastes that bad; but it's better with some orange juice.
-Eat at least one banana.

Effects should be felt within an hour. You probably won't notice anything more than a +1 unless you smoke some pot/hash. My advice would be to not smoke anything with THC in it until you start feeling the effects of the seeds. Numbness of the hands/feet is normal.

No need to really worry about how efficient the simple water/alcohol extraction is... last I checked; you could get a half pound (about 8,000) of organic, no-pesticides/etc Heavenly Blue M.G. seeds on Ebay for under 15 bucks, shipping included.

All the trips I've had from morning glory seeds have been extremely visual & mental - it's just incredible. THC & LSA go very well together; they're one of my favorite chemical duo's. Nitrous oxide is a fun add-in here as well.

Anyone have any info on combining LSA & Mushrooms? I've been wanting to dose on the combination for quite a while; but I'm just not sure if it's safe or not as I haven't been able to find any reports of someone having done it before.

Edited by Dango_Bill (01/25/08 03:10 AM)

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Dango_Bill]
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anyone ever try that lsh thing with the peppermint oil?

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: usg543]
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Dango Bill have you used any of the other seeds mentioned?


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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Rappenstein]
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Read the rules.


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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Nalim]
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I haven't used any other seeds besides Heavenly Blue M.G. - Someday I'd like to; but I ordered a half-pound of HB MG seeds about two years ago & I still have a bunch of them left after my use & after giving tons away to friends. I know they lose potency over time but I am keeping them in the freezer.

I had never heard of the peppermint-oil LSH tek before; I just googled though and it sounds great. Maybe that's what I'll do next time.

Edited by Dango_Bill (01/25/08 12:44 PM)

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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: Dango_Bill]
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Hey man, good post. You seem to have about the same opinion I have of morning glory seeds. It is strange that they have such a diminished effect when taken by themselves, without another hallucinogen.

Morning glories and mushrooms are amazing together, and I have had nothing but incredibly mindblowing trips with that combination.

Same for syrian rue, and for san pedro. I think morning glories are like a synergy plant...


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Re: Sublingual LSA [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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i have used MG, didnt like it so much. HBWR is much better. have yet to try ololiqui, i hear it is even better than HBWR.


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