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Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA?
    #2627906 - 05/02/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My seeds are going to get here Tuesday, and to celebrate my friends' getting out of school, we want to enjoy the seeds that day! But the only time I've done LSA was with a cold-water/lemon juice extraction over a period of 5 days. I just smashed the seeds up, put them in bottled water w/ some lemon juice, filtered 5 days later and drank the water. It worked really, really well.

But I want to know if just eating the seeds in ground up form would work just as well? I would assume it would. If I eat the seeds, I would get 100% of the LSA would I not? I was thinking of just grinding up the seeds and putting them into some yogurt or something, and then eating the yogurt. Is that going to be as effective? And I would assume the come up would be alot slower?

Any info would be appreciated, thanks.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2627959 - 05/02/04 02:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

of course, an extraction is not a transformation so if you eat the seeds straight, you'll get all the good stuff.
and the bad stuff too  :projectile:


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Gus]
    #2628790 - 05/02/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ya I did it once and felt like I took the love drug for the first hour (meaning the feeling like I was going puke)then you just get lazy and dont see really anything, I smiled alot and it went on for years, like 10 hours. And when I woke up the next day I felt like I had sex all night long for the rest of the day... I'll stick to the real shit for now on..


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: PotIsYourFriend]
    #2629677 - 05/03/04 12:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But damn that full body orgasm that HBWR gives you - LSD can't compare to that. Really when you look at it LSA is not a cheap LSD but a completely different chemical with its own effects.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Wysefool]
    #2629951 - 05/03/04 01:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. LSA is defenitely a winner in my book. But that is based on my having used it once. I puked even with a cold water extraction, so I'm going to just eat the seeds this time.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2630377 - 05/03/04 02:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

just be sure that you grind it up really well - whether in your mouth or with 10 second bursts in a coffee grinder. If you have a lot of seeds you could also try sublingual for no nausea but I found that I got A LOT less high with this route.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2630825 - 05/03/04 07:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you grind it you're going to get plenty of LSA, the only reason people extract it is so they get only LSA and no seeds.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Wysefool]
    #2634705 - 05/04/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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just be sure that you grind it up really well - whether in your mouth or with 10 second bursts in a coffee grinder. If you have a lot of seeds you could also try sublingual for no nausea but I found that I got A LOT less high with this route.




Sublingual is just sucking on them right? Trying to absorb it in your saliva?

And I just want to make sure. Last time when I drank 9 seeds, it hit me really fast, and really hard. Like 30 minutes and I was buzzing SOOOOOO hard it was rediculous. Is it going to be a fast come up? Am I going to have to eat like..all of the powderized seed all at once? Or if I say..put the powderized seed in some yogurt, and ate the yogurt, would it just be a slow come up? Or is the come up going to be the same as a cold-water extraction type come up. Basically, is the LSA-in-water really concentrated and fast acting compared to eating powderized seed?


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2634879 - 05/04/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The comeup will be faster and stronger like comparing mushrooms to mushroom tea. Sublingual is under the tongue for at least 30 minutes with a bit of fruit juice - then spit out.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2634919 - 05/04/04 01:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There seems to be a lot of differing opinions on reducing nausea of HBWR... some people say that the LSA itself's toxicity causes it and that extractions do little or nothing. This seems possible?

Anyone tried both the seeds themselves and an extraction, and can confirm that the extraction definitely helps with nausea?


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Wysefool]
    #2636495 - 05/04/04 12:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, well I guess I'll get 10 seeds, grind them in a coffee grinder, and put them in some yogurt. I'll eat the yogurt quickly, and then I'll hope for the best.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: freddurgan]
    #2637579 - 05/04/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Let us know how it goes.
Enquiring minds want to know :wink:


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: TinTree]
    #2637699 - 05/04/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i just tried hbwr for the first time this past weekend... i took 8 seeds and only got a real intense body buzz... like i was shrooming... i had no visuals either, i filed some of the fuzz off and ate them 1 or 2 at a time... 3 hours later after hardly any nausea i got real queezy then puked and felt fine and enjoyed the rest of my trip...


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2640549 - 05/05/04 07:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

HBWR hasn't made me actually vomit yet but I don't really care to waste anymore money on it - I actually enjoyed the morning glories more. Neither really made me hallucinate but I would get into weird mind states like thinking the hedge-fence looks like a snake the way it goes around the whole yard. Both just gave me a body buzz - Woodrose's was cleaner but MG's was MUCH more intense.


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Re: Eating HBWR just as effective as extracting the LSA? [Re: Wysefool]
    #2642457 - 05/05/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Its only a mather of quantity. Eat more Hbwr next time :wink:


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Re: HBWR extraction question for youz guyz? [Re: Gus]
    #2643751 - 05/06/04 12:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i was going to crush up some hbwr seeds and put them in small amount of water, shotglass amount of water... how long should the seeds soak, and should i add a few extra to get desired effects? i heard that you can soak them and mash them abit for like 1 hour in cold water and it works quite well, just have to do 10 seeds to get the effects of about 6... some shit like that...


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Re: HBWR extraction question for youz guyz? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2643878 - 05/06/04 01:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well seeds have been crushed and cold water is being added, i will put in the refridgerator overnight and give a shake when i can... seeds will be soaking in water for almost 2 days before use...


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answer me this... [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2646139 - 05/06/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i got this shit still soaking in my refridgerator... keeping it in the refridgerator till it gets used wont fuck nothing up will it?


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Re: answer me this... [Re: freddurgan]
    #2649083 - 05/07/04 05:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I had around 25-30 seeds ground up. I added them to a shot glass of water and let soak for about an hour, then drank it down. Came on with an intense body high, then a period of nausea. After the nauseous feeling built I had a pretty thorough purge. After the purge it came on HARD. Really intense body high and fantastic energy. Had insane sex for hours until my body fully gave out, and I couldn't even get off of my bed. It seemed similar to mdma and lsd. Not much of a visual trip but an intensely great body high and powerful mental/spiritua/sexual stimulation. Was 100X better than sex on mda. It seems somewhat unpredictable as I have tried it several times with somewhat varying results, but I think a lot of it is set/setting dependant as are most psychedelics.


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Re: answer me this... [Re: Submob]
    #2651062 - 05/07/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I took HBW's a few weeks ago for my first and only time. It #1 in my book so far, i love the europhia feeling from it and how the colors are all in your face but not distorted. And no chance of a bad trip on this stuff but i wouldnt do too much because i noticed my vision is off after taking the HBW's... but then i took fly agaric the next week so it could have been those. I think that might be a side effect of eth mush.

Anyways you need to shell the HBW's so you dont puke. Its a bitch but well worth it. Crush them with pliers and break them up then pick through it tiwh a razor pickoing out all the shells and picking off the meat off the shell fragments. I took 5 seeds this way after eating a small snack (ready made ravioli) then took another 3 about 30min in and i only had a small stomach ache for about 15 min, it just felt like i was a bit hungry, noting bad.

My friend on the other hand only took 5 without removing teh shells and felt like pukeing for agood hour.


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