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Filter3d
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Substitution Materials?
#7869740 - 01/12/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'm following the guide located: here.
I searched and searched at Wal-Mart, Target, and Winn-Dixie for brown rice flour, and still couldn't find it. I bought a food grinder and some organic long grain brown rice, assuming this would work. I don't think that's a problem, but if it is let me know.
My true concern is with the Vermiculite. The only bag I could find was this enormous bag (probably 15lb or more). I purchased perlite instead.
Before I start inoculating the jars, I want to make sure that these ingredient substitutions will work. If they won't, I guess I'll have to go back and buy the huge bag of vermiculite. I really don't want that much, but oh well. Thanks!
P.S.: This is my first grow, and I'm using B+
Edited by Filter3d (01/12/08 04:46 PM)
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Naveed
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
#7869757 - 01/12/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Damn I wish I could find bags that big over here
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killerthc
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
#7869761 - 01/12/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Im pretty sure perlite wont work.... you will most likely have to go back and get that bag of vermiculite..... but i would wait till you get an answer from a more experienced cultivator ect......
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: killerthc]
#7869773 - 01/12/08 04:52 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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The rice to grind into flour is perfect. 
If you can get verm in a 15lb bag, go buy it. I wouldn't substitute perlite for verm in a cake...
Over time you'll use the verm up hehehe... Keep the perlite for humidity
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MYSTIQUE
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shaggydogman said: The rice to grind into flour is perfect. 
If you can get verm in a 15lb bag, go buy it. I wouldn't substitute perlite for verm in a cake...
Over time you'll use the verm up hehehe... Keep the perlite for humidity
You cant substitute perlite for verm it wont work. Goto a hydroponic store if ya have too and they will have everything.
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7869802 - 01/12/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Btw 15 pound bag of verm aint that bad you can get around 25 jars for 5 pounds so 15 pounds is around 75 jars it should cost around 15 bucks I pay 1$ a pound for 5 pound bags and get bags taller then me and really fat for around 30 bucks.
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-------------------- Rye -- WBS | Grain LC -- G2G | Bulk -- Monotub | 50/50 -- Late Casing -- A Pinning Strategy Disclaimer: My opinion is subject to change at short notice subject to but not limited by new information and knowledge being made available.
Edited by shaggydogman (01/12/08 05:07 PM)
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BUDDHA_702
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You need Verm for the cakes + you will use it for other things to like Bulk subs & casing layers if you every move up to grains. & Don't forget to Dunk'n'Roll
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r311ik
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7869889 - 01/12/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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MYSTIQUE said: Btw 15 pound bag of verm aint that bad you can get around 25 jars for 5 pounds so 15 pounds is around 75 jars it should cost around 15 bucks I pay 1$ a pound for 5 pound bags and get bags taller then me and really fat for around 30 bucks.
why dont you do bulk instead of cake?
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: r311ik]
#7869911 - 01/12/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: r311ik]
#7869920 - 01/12/08 05:28 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I do do bulk from time to time. But I like cakes to test out clones and to see if my l.c. is contaminated, testing out new syringes and prints the list goes on and on cuz I don't have a flow hood never really got into agar.
I was just using cakes as an example you can use like 10 pounds in a 50/50 casein.
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: 04281969]
#7870128 - 01/12/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Perlite and vermiculite are pretty much opposites. Perlite will not work as a substitute. Buy that big bag though, because running out of material right in the middle of mixing a batch sucks. Besides, you can use it in bulk subs if you go that far.
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why dont you do bulk instead of cake?
You need spawn for that bulk, don't you?
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Filter3d
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
#8153004 - 03/16/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, thanks guys. After seeing how these products work together I feel like an idiot.
All a part of being a noob, I guess.
Thanks a ton!!
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