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OfflineFilter3d
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Substitution Materials?
    #7869740 - 01/12/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I'm following the guide located: here.

I searched and searched at Wal-Mart, Target, and Winn-Dixie for brown rice flour, and still couldn't find it. I bought a food grinder and some organic long grain brown rice, assuming this would work. I don't think that's a problem, but if it is let me know.

My true concern is with the Vermiculite. The only bag I could find was this enormous bag (probably 15lb or more). I purchased perlite instead.

Before I start inoculating the jars, I want to make sure that these ingredient substitutions will work. If they won't, I guess I'll have to go back and buy the huge bag of vermiculite. I really don't want that much, but oh well. Thanks!


P.S.: This is my first grow, and I'm using B+


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
    #7869757 - 01/12/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Damn I wish I could find bags that big over here


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
    #7869761 - 01/12/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Im pretty sure perlite wont work.... you will most likely have to go back and get that bag of vermiculite..... but i would wait till you get an answer from a more experienced cultivator ect......


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: killerthc]
    #7869773 - 01/12/08 04:52 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

The rice to grind into flour is perfect. :smile:

If you can get verm in a 15lb bag, go buy it. I wouldn't substitute perlite for verm in a cake...

Over time you'll use the verm up :smile: :smile: hehehe...
Keep the perlite for humidity


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7869787 - 01/12/08 04:55 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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shaggydogman said:
The rice to grind into flour is perfect. :smile:

If you can get verm in a 15lb bag, go buy it. I wouldn't substitute perlite for verm in a cake...

Over time you'll use the verm up :smile: :smile: hehehe...
Keep the perlite for humidity




You cant substitute perlite for verm it wont work. Goto a hydroponic store if ya have too and they will have everything.


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7869802 - 01/12/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Btw 15 pound bag of verm aint that bad you can get around 25 jars for 5 pounds so 15 pounds is around 75 jars it should cost around 15 bucks I pay 1$ a pound for 5 pound bags and get bags taller then me and really fat for around 30 bucks.


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7869812 - 01/12/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
It's like asking if you can substitute water for gas to run your car.





Can I point your here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6886470#6886470

then here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6610766#Post6610766


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7869838 - 01/12/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You need Verm for the cakes + you will use it for other things to like Bulk subs & casing layers if you every move up to grains.
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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7869889 - 01/12/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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MYSTIQUE said:
Btw 15 pound bag of verm aint that bad you can get around 25 jars for 5 pounds so 15 pounds is around 75 jars it should cost around 15 bucks I pay 1$ a pound for 5 pound bags and get bags taller then me and really fat for around 30 bucks.




why dont you do bulk instead of cake?


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: r311ik]
    #7869911 - 01/12/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: r311ik]
    #7869920 - 01/12/08 05:28 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I do do bulk from time to time. But I like cakes to test out clones and to see if my l.c. is contaminated, testing out new syringes and prints the list goes on and on cuz I don't have a flow hood never really got into agar.

I was just using cakes as an example you can use like 10 pounds in a 50/50 casein.


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7869962 - 01/12/08 05:35 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You want to run your car on water? No problem.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/08/23/019622.html
http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05-15-06pageWaterasfuel.htm

But, forget the perlite idea. Stick with the recipe.


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: 04281969]
    #7870128 - 01/12/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Perlite and vermiculite are pretty much opposites. Perlite will not work as a substitute. Buy that big bag though, because running out of material right in the middle of mixing a batch sucks. Besides, you can use it in bulk subs if you go that far.

Quote:

why dont you do bulk instead of cake?



You need spawn for that bulk, don't you?


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Re: Substitution Materials? [Re: Filter3d]
    #8153004 - 03/16/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, thanks guys. After seeing how these products work together I feel like an idiot.

All a part of being a noob, I guess.

Thanks a ton!!


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