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OfflineRemy
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    #784181 - 07/29/02 02:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How would I go about training a dog to sniff out shrooms, both hallucinogenic and edible. Im sure it is possible. Has anyone done this before, or know any methods used to train dogs. I have a very intelligent German Shepard, that I think would be ideal for training.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #784206 - 07/29/02 03:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

dude thats is a absolute awesome idea ask a cop how they train there dogs to find shrooms and do what they do


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: ]
    #784223 - 07/29/02 03:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i know they use pigs to find truffles underground so why not find shroomies above ground?


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: budsmoka]
    #784255 - 07/29/02 03:26 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Pigs as well as dogs. That is where i got the idea. It would make current shroom hunting methods much more efficient, becuase you would not miss hardly any mushrooms. Maybe the shroomery could even have a shroom dog forum, if it works well.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #784267 - 07/29/02 03:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

that might work very well !!

best wishes.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Hermes_br]
    #784982 - 07/29/02 08:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

For those of you interested in training dogs to sniff shrooms, here is an interesting paper I found courtesy of the US government!

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/ctac/ctac99/pdfs/johnston.pdf

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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: primal_future]
    #785199 - 07/29/02 10:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

haha, thats cool!


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #785483 - 07/30/02 04:14 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You could ask around at dog training schools and see what their methods are for training a dog to respond to smells.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: ]
    #786318 - 07/30/02 01:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

A dog wouldn't really be neccasary in a pastures and fields, but could still be useful in finding shrooms. The main purpose of training a dog, would be hunting in the woods, where mushrooms are often hidden out of site. Also, a dog wouldn't take the fun out of the sport, because training, and keeping a dog, is as hard and fun as shroom hunting.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #786806 - 07/30/02 06:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hm... this is about the 4th time I've seen a post of this nature within the past year or so, and no one seems to have definate answers... If you manage to train your dog, let us know.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Gumby]
    #786840 - 07/30/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think that they feed pigs small pieces of the truffles so that they will hunt for them relentlesly. So maybe you would have to feed the dogs shrooms too...not so much that your dog will be trippin hard while huntin...save that for later...hehe.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: StInvetroThomas]
    #787410 - 07/31/02 01:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think it'd be a good idea to feed an animal such as a dog psychidelic 'drugs'.
Think of all the people you know who have taken shrooms and wigged out, then think about a dog who has no clue wtf...

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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: di0aD]
    #787534 - 07/31/02 05:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Drug dogs are trained by letting them sniff packages with something in (usually harmless, but with a definate scent) then the trainer hides the package and the dog is rewarded for finding it. That's about all I know, but I would have thought that the package would have to start out as something interesting to the dog, so it would look for it in the first place. Then over time the package could be replaced for whatever it is you want the dog to look for. You'd let the dog sniff the package then hide it. The dog would look for it because he knows he will be rewarded. Eventually you'd have to get him used to different shaped packages, and not showing them to him before hiding, so he knows that it is that smell that will get him a reward.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: di0aD]
    #787889 - 07/31/02 09:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

In reply to:

don't think it'd be a good idea to feed an animal such as a dog psychidelic 'drugs'.
Think of all the people you know who have taken shrooms and wigged out, then think about a dog who has no clue wtf...





I dont think that would be a good idea either. In fact, I think that would be a horrible form of animal abuse. I would never to that to any dog. The method I plan on using would be like the one in that paper. Also, the government trains using pseudo-narcotics. These are substance which smell the same as certain drugs to a dog, but smell completely different to humans, and are not active. If there was some way I could get a psilocybin scent, I would use it, but I doubt it would be something I could get my hands on if it even exsists.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #788426 - 07/31/02 01:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hope ya'll realize that was a joke..about the dog and feeding it shrooms...In fact I doubt the shrooms would even taste good to dogs...people people...relax and laugh a little.


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Remy]
    #803662 - 08/08/02 01:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I am on my second generation of training a rotty for this perpose, he loves the hunt. we started training when the pups about 6 weeks. It is a game to them.
Our first was also a rotty. she is no longer with us. She learned by hunting with us on her own. very smart dogs. Osris is now 7 weeks and doing well learning the skills of hunt and find. I can say that it is a joy to have a pet that shares the love of the hunt.
But it takes time and patince, so if you are wanting to do this then take the time to make it a fun game for the pet....


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Re: Shroom Dogs [Re: Unity333]
    #805787 - 08/08/02 10:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

My dog is extremely intelligent and playful, and the police wanted to use it as a drug dog, but we got it. I take him shroom hunting when Im in the woods, but so far Ive only found Chanterelles, Indigo Milkys, and some rotting Gyms. I know there are some weiliis and some amanitas back there. How long did it take your dog to get accustomed to finding shrooms? and do you have any tricks to help in training?


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