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Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK]
    #7717984 - 12/04/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers
December 4, 2007 - dailymail.co.uk

Cannabis dealers would escape jail under proposed sentencing rules for magistrates.

Until now, dealers selling even small quantities have faced up to 14 years in prison.

But in future those convicted of dealing Class C drugs - such as cannabis - could instead be given community orders. Only big-time cannabis dealers would face jail.

The rules are in a draft document prepared by the Sentencing Guidelines Council. They could be adopted as early as February.

Labour downgraded the status of cannabis from Class B to Class C in 2003, which means those caught with the drug for personal use are unlikely to be arrested. At the time, ministers said the switch would mean police had more time to chase down drug dealers.

The guidelines also say those caught with large quantities of Class A drugs such as heroin and cocaine should no longer be jailed if the drugs are for personal use.

Criticising the proposals, Tory justice spokesman Nick Herbert said: "What kind of signal will this send to society about our attitude to drugs?


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: veggie]
    #7718474 - 12/05/07 04:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What signal does it send about drugs? That you're a cunt with misguided ethics. Legalising cannabis isn't in their plans? Well, they are slowly making all the right moves to having it legal.

Maybe it'll remain in limbo, where it will eventually get to the stage where it's still illegal, but police don't bother arresting people for it.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: veggie]
    #7718895 - 12/05/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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veggie said:

Criticising the proposals, Tory justice spokesman Nick Herbert said: "What kind of signal will this send to society about our attitude to drugs?




Well, i think the signal is that the UK wants a sensible drug policy that doesn't manufacture criminals.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: Nephlyte]
    #7718999 - 12/05/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #9199561 - 11/06/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I remember my experience in Amsterdam.  Shrooms were packaged in plastic containers much like alfalfa sprouts are in the grocery stores.  You could buy them in convenience stores.  Cannabis was sold in cafe's going thru usually a ringed binder with small sample bag of product and advertising description and potency labeling as well as guidelines as to what to expect from the experience.

It was sensible and the only real evidence of kickback I saw was a poor hippy type man who was flipping hard in the public space across from the Heineken Museum by the train stop.  I felt him to probably be on a mushroom overdose. 

The police just watched him and didn't make a huge ambulance 4 squad car ordeal out of it like they would here in America.

And the good ole'- "Is it the illegality of marijuana that makes you paranoid?" argument was somewhat true, but i believe the paranoia comes more personally from a persons relationship (or non relationship)with themselves.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: solarnation]
    #9203854 - 11/07/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Funny how this article doesn't mention that the government is reclassifying cannabis back up to class B in January 2009, against the advice of its own report.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: roquet]
    #9203902 - 11/07/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Probably because this article is from December 2007.


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Re: Courts could be told not to jail cannabis dealers [UK] [Re: veggie]
    #9204045 - 11/07/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

oops...


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