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OfflineChemical_Smile
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I need a way to hide folders
    #759483 - 07/19/02 04:40 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

I need a way to hide folders on my computer. I have been thinking about what people might find on my computer if I was arrested or in an accident or something; there's alot of stuff I want private so how do I make folders dissapear. It would be great if I could also put a password on them and have them automaticly delete after so many days of no usage. I am using windows 98 at the moment if that matters.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #761703 - 07/20/02 11:07 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

I appologize for not looking harder, I just found the post about pgp disk and that is working for me at the moment. I would like to eventually find something that would erase files after a sertain amount of time though.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #762739 - 07/20/02 06:31 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

store them on a cd-rw.......beter to be safe than sorry.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Orbita6974]
    #762820 - 07/20/02 07:07 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

Thanks for the suggestion but thats the last thing in the world I want to do. Theres a good chance that cops or my family would be curriouse and go through cd-rws. Unless I hid them in the vents or something like that which is very inconvenient. The best thing you can do to stay out of trouble is TELL NO ONE. If I dont tell anybody then there will be no one to go delete my files for me if I am arrested or killed in a car crash or something. The pgpdisk is allright for preventing someone from stumbling onto things but if they are really looking it wont do shit. I need something to erase, I mean REALY ERASE, all incriminating stuff I have set aside.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #764092 - 07/21/02 09:56 AM (15 years, 3 days ago)

you can get windows xp and set up your own password for your own "partiton" in the os.......thats what i do.....but i own my computer so i dont have to worry about my parents/brothers snooping around my hd.....its password protected. hehehehe


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Orbita6974]
    #764340 - 07/21/02 12:14 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

A 5 year old can get past the Windows passwords.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #767526 - 07/22/02 01:47 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

i highly doubt they can with xp's somewhat deccent password system. Yea anyone could get in on a 9x platform, but xp is a little better at passwords.
If you do get busted and they do search your comptuer... no passwords going protect you, they got decoders that can even get info off of a formatted drive.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Cougheeman]
    #767596 - 07/22/02 02:18 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

In reply to:

they got decoders that can even get info off of a formatted drive.




Yes they do. Which is why you need a program such as Eraser or Norton's wipe utility.

I have both and mostly rely on Eraser as it can be scheduled to overwrite your drives empty space as many times as you like. It also overwrites file rather than deleting them.

And if you don't think that the XP password can be gotten past... you either put your faith in the crap Microsoft tells you or else you believe in the tooth fairy.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #767941 - 07/22/02 04:22 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

Yea i've heard of programs like that. Some of them have goverment standards in which it goes through a process which government computers go through to get rid of all chance of file recovery.
As for xp passwords, sure they can get passed fairly easily, however they are much better then 9x's password system.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #772033 - 07/24/02 01:01 AM (15 years, 14 hours ago)

PGP has a wipe feature. You might wanna check that out.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: xnevermore]
    #772040 - 07/24/02 01:14 AM (15 years, 13 hours ago)

My understanding of PGP (which I used to use) is that it was sold to McAfee I believe which doesn't offer it as a stand alone. Also when I went with XP, PGP (a newer version) would not work. I actually had to reformat the drive and reinstall everything.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #773230 - 07/24/02 01:38 PM (15 years, 1 hour ago)

Most of the features do work in XP. Just don't use PGPnet and you should be fine. Also, you probably didn't have to reformat. You can use Microsoft System Restore (already installed on XP) do undo harmful changes to your computer. I had the same problem and System Restore fixed it almost immediatly. I'm currently using PGP under XP.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: xnevermore]
    #773452 - 07/24/02 02:47 PM (15 years, 25 minutes ago)

I did attempt to use restore. Sadly it failed. Don't remember the exact message but it was along the lines of "Unable to find restore point" or something like that.

I had set a restore point just that day. Shame because I liked PGP quite a bit.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #773899 - 07/24/02 06:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Whenever I need to hide something I zip it up, then encrypt it, then copy it to the system folder in windows and rename it so it looks like a DLL file or something close but I also rename it in DOS using a special key combination that doesnt allow it to be copied, moved or deleted through windows. IE: Msdx_.dll _ representing my key combination (alt + combo).

But I'm a wee bit paranoid sometimes.
Oh and if you do delete something that you dont want anyone to see and dont have norton wipe or one of those programs - if you fill up the hard drive after its deleted with a big file, then delete the big files it wont be recoverable.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: TeKHeAD009]
    #779940 - 07/27/02 11:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Tesla,

i'm sure that would be detected by a serious investigator...as those .dll,s wouldn't look anything like real dll's either in size or content.

there are programs out there to hide files by appending them to image files and there is also a program called magic folders to make invisible folders...but both of these programs are easy to detect and probably not secure. there is a program called WIPE that is supposed to wipe out files permenantly and leave no trace even for those evil programs that can find files on a formatted drive.

i suggest you burn everything to a CD that you want secure, rig up a large blow torch to a big red button, place the CD's in front of the blow torch, and if the cops bust in....slap the red button. of course it won't be long before the thought police are able to take physical matter, examine it with supa-algorythms and extract previous states of matter back in time. at this point...we will all be fucked ... i'll move to tangiers personally...


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #783261 - 07/29/02 06:15 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I found this tek, not 100% sure about it because I'm at work and I'm only able to skim through it but take a look and try it out. And please note, "this will not keep fbi/police/anyone who knows computers really good from finding your files, only computer illiterate people and people who aren't really looking for incriminating files on your computer.".

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Hiding Things From Other Windows Users

This Tutorial is for newbies
how to hide porn from your parents.

This will also work with hiding your hacking files or anything
else you want to keep to yourself.
note: this will not keep fbi/police/anyone who knows computers
really good from finding your files, only computer illiterate
people and people who aren't really looking for incriminating
files on your computer.


Hiding The Files/Directories:
1) hide directories
2) encrypted directories
3) CDs and floppies

Hiding The Evidence:
1) browser history
2) cookies
3) tmp files
4) windows history (start->documents)


Ok, let me first start off with why you would want to do this.
You live at home with your parents and your brothers and sisters.
They all use the computer every once and awhile, but you use it
all day. You do a few things on it that you would rather keep any
of them from knowing about. ex. pornography or hacking. I'll try
to share some knowledge I've gained on keeping things secret from
people on windows 98, I don't know if this will work with any
other versions of windows (most likely they will). I will keep
this very short and to the point, there are tons of little details
that I could get into, but it would be a waste of everyone's time.
Just think to yourself how to keep them more secret and you'll be
more productive than reading 40 pages by me telling you not to
write down the location of your files on a post-it by the
monitor.

I've decided to break this tutorial down into 2 main catigories.
Hiding Files And Directories is the first, and Hiding The Evidence
is the second. If you know of any more techniques please email me
at b0iler@hotmail.com


Hiding Files And Directories

Hiding Directories
This is a key point in keeping your things secret from the other
users. You should try to make the files and directories seem as
if they are not even there. Hopfully the other users will never
even find the directory. The first thing to do is to find a place
where the other users of the computer would not likely look. I
would suggest something in C:\windows since many regular computer
users never go into this directory, so they would be less likely
to find it. I picked C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSAABAK. Now make several
directories named like: 01q1 01p2 01u3 01w5 01y3 04x2 .. the more
you create the more likely the other users will not look in the
one you use to keep your hidden stuff***. You can also make
subdirectories in each of these if you really want to make it hard
for other users to find it. Create a few dummy files in there to
make it look like they are being used.

Now you need to create the actuall hidden directory by using an
old ms-dos technique. Create a normal directory in explorer and
right click on it and select properties, under attributes select
hidden. Now you need to make this directory unaccessable from
windows by going to start->programs->ms-dos and then cd to where
you put the directory. once there type: rename and the name of
the directory you created, then press alt+255 (using the number
buttons on the right side, not the ones above the letters). and
then type in the name of your directory.

It should look like this:
rename dir dir
you will type this:
rename dir alt+255dir

What this does is renames the directory with alt+255 in front of
it. With the alt+255 in the name it makes the directory
unaccessable from windows since windows cannot handle the alt+255
character. So you will have to also make the directory hidden by
going to view->folder options..->view->under hidden files select
"do not show hidden files".

So from now on you will need to move all your sensitive files into
that directory from a dos prompt. To move them do:

move c:\path\to\file.txt c:\path\to\alt+255dir

Microsoft has alittle better way of hiding files than this alt+255
trick. go to a dos prompt and type: cd \windows\tempor~1 then dir
see nothing? try cd content.ie5 oh my, completely hidden.
They've got some directories so hidden that you can't even get to
them with a dos prompt from within windows.. you need to reboot
into actual dos to get to them. (I got this from a really good
paper at:
http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml)
Although I don't know how/if you can create hidden directories
yourself. I guess you could hide your files in
c:\windows\tempor~1\content.ie5 =)


Encrypting Files
Alright, this is a key.. although getting your directories
encrypted isn't as easy in windows as it is in linux it still is
fairly seemless. I would suggest downloading a program called
Mooseoft Encrypter - why this program? Because it's freeware, it's
simple to use, it works very well, and it can encrypt/decrypt
multiple files at once. It comes with a really good help file, so
if you have any problems with it just look there. Infact, if you
encrypt your files with it, using a password no one will ever
guess .. I see little reason to use the alt+255 method =) But if
you still want to be 100% secure I would use both methods.


100% Hidden Files (using removable storage)
ok, this is by far the best method to use, and it's fairly easy to
do. Simply get a floppy, put it in your computer and put the
files you want hidden on it. That's it. Now hide the floppy so
no one finds it. Putting crappy decoy files mixed in with the
real ones will help just incase someone does find the floppy and
checks to see what's on it. And don't name your files porn1.jpg
hackinghowto.txt sex.gif. Make sure to label it something like
'school work #3' so maybe your parents will ignore it. Don't name
it 'video games' or anything like that if you have brothers or
sisters living with you.. that's just asking for them to check it
out. any other form of removable media would work aswell, zip
disks, cdrw, tape drives.. anything.


Hiding The Evidence

Deleting The History In IE
Doing this will help keep what your up to online much more secret.
After being asked what I was doing on www.hack.co.za a few times
by roomates I decided to start deleting the history of ie. This
is very simple, you can ether delete everything in history, or
only the sites you want. To delete everything:

go to tools->internet options...->delete cookies and delete
files

To delete only the sites you want click on the history button
(it's got a sundial on it) and right click on any of the sites you
want to delete, then select delete.

(go over how to make a .bat file that will delete the history
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\
TypedURLs)


tmp Files
tmp files are created by programs while you run windows. The
normal location for these files is C:\windows\temp but also check
C:\temp C:\tmp C:windows\tmp.


Deleting Form Field History
You know how if you have autocomplete on with ie and you start to
type in a form field that has the same name as one you have filled
out before how it pops up a drop down menu with all the previous
values you have put in that form? This can be pretty bad when your
parents go to google.com and see that you have been searching
for

hacking
cracking tutorials
porn
big boobs
how to steal your parents credit card

So you need to delete this history whenever you search for
something you shouldn't. You should first turn off auto complete
(it's in internetproperties/content.) then delete the history file
by (tell them how.) if I can't find out how tell them to go one by
one and delete them :/

Since I have no other place to put this I'll just throw it in
here. 0perations gave me a this great tip when hiding my evidence
of files. Lets say you want to watch a video, XXXpornogirls.mpg.
Now instead of just clicking on it and viewing it rename it to
windemo.mpg or something bland like that. Since most movie
players keep a kind of history of the last videos you viewed this
will defeat that. Also if you rename the file and put it in a
different directory after you view it other users will have no
clue what it was.


Deleting Recently Viewed Documents
Whenever you open a file that windows sees as a document it is put
in a list. To view this list go to start->documents since this is
such an open place other computer users will often see it. You
don't want xxxSEXpic01.jpg showing up on there. So lets get rid
of that list. right click on the toolbar at the bottom of
windows. Right next to your minimized applications. select
properties->start menu programs->under the document's menu press
the clear button and then ok. The list will be empty now =)

Want to just get rid of that folder? go to start->run-> type in
regedit Then go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
and change NoRecentDocsMenu's REG_DWORD to 1. If it's 0 that
means it will display it, 1 will not. if u dont find it than
create a new binary value on tht right hand side and do the same
process as above.

I like to just clear it when I leave windows, to do this open up
regedit and go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
and change ClearRecentDocsOnExit's REG_DWORD to 1. If it's 0
it will be disabled, 1 will be enabled




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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #791101 - 08/01/02 05:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

This wont help you in Microsoft land, but for all the unix users out there, a great place to hide stuff is in a directory which is used for a mount point. Unmount the file system, put whatever files there and remount the filesystem... files... what files?


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Strongest disk security available [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #815992 - 08/13/02 08:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't read all the replies so I don't know if anyone else has suggested this.

You need ScramDisk. You tell the program how big a secure hard disk you need and it creates a file that size on your hard disk. When you run SC and enter the password you told it a new hard disk magically appears in your system. If your CD-ROM is D for example, your SC disk will be E. It walks and talks like a regular hard disk. When you reboot, the disk disappears until you activate SC again.

When SC isn't running you just have a big file on your hard disk, which you can name anything you like and store in any folder. Encryption algorithm is very, very strong

It's free too. Get it at http://www.scramdisk.clara.net/



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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #816358 - 08/13/02 11:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

How about using on of those online drives. Then it isn't on your machine at all.


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Re: I need a way to hide folders [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #821687 - 08/16/02 06:53 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

About 4 years ago i was arrested because i broke into a local isp, and my friend did stupid dialup stuff from his house, then called me while they had his line tapped. 2 Days before they took my computer, i formatted it like 5 times cause the install kept on going wrong. After they took it about a month later i got an envelope in the mail saying that they were going to prosecute me and they had evidence of what i did (a lot was encrypted). Apparently they recovered about 95% of the hard drive from what i was told by my lawyer. Luckily the isp later dropped the case because i did no harm, although my friend got like 50 hours of community service (still not that bad), because he was dialing up and creating accounts. If you wanna hide stuff, do as people said before, just geta cdr/cdrw, but if its on your computer before you burn it, then it can probably be recovered. Best bet is if you see the feds at your door, switch your hard drives really quickly! hehe.
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