Home | Community | Message Board


Azarius
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Paul Stamets

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
InvisibleGabbaDj
BTH
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 19,449
Loc: By The Lake
Mycelium life cycle?
    #741209 - 07/12/02 10:53 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I recently found a sporeworks myco bag that I abandoned a few months ago and amaizingly the thing colonated and grew a few shrooms (see pictures forum). After harvesting a handfull of shrooms I broke up the cake and mixed it with a tub of maneure and compost.

my question is, when a cake begins to fruit does the mycellium begin a new phaze in its life cycle like flowering plants do? Since a few fruits grew off this cake will it be Ok to use it to inoculate some substrate?
Ive never before done anything with my growth once theyve started to fruit.


--------------------
GabbaDj

FAMM.ORG          C8.com                    http://www.beatsopjefiets.com/   


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Mycelium life cycle? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #741318 - 07/12/02 11:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

- Post History Deleted Upon User's Request -


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemodulo
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/00
Posts: 4
Loc: Califor-nai-yay
Last seen: 14 years, 4 months
Re: Mycelium life cycle? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #743515 - 07/13/02 11:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Basidiomycetes - The fruiting fungus - generally have 3 types of mycelium, none of which are perfect, or sexual (diploid) stages. We begin with a single spore (haploid / 1N) that germinates to form *primary* hyphae/mycelium. The mycelium is inherently haploid (1N) until it meets with another hyphae. If you've ever looked through that Stamets books you may have seen a few pictures of clamp connections on the mycelium. The clamp connections are ways for two strains of haploid (1N) mycelium to "mate" and form dikaryotic (N + N) mycelium. When you have the dikaryote condition the mycelium enters the *secondary* phase of its lifecycle.
The fruiting phase is what's known as *tertiary* mycelium. Mushrooms are also dikaryotic (N+N) but because they are so different in form than the secondary mycelium, they get a whole new classification.

Mushrooms are also the only place where basidiomycetes enter the perfect (sexual) stage and form basidiospores (spores). On each gill are millions of protrusions that form called "basidium". A basidium is the only Diploid (2N) stage of the basidiomycetes (hence the name!). The spores undergoe meiosis and you're back to haploid all over again.

For fast colonization you aim for secondary mycelium. It's never really a problem unless you're dealing with single spores. That's never the case because we generally find millions of spores and as home cultivators we can't separate each one for germination. So inherently we always deal with the N+N mycelium.

But to answer your question, in short, yes - mushroom formation does signal a different phase in the life cycle, it signals the onset of the sexual cycle in the fungus.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleGabbaDj
BTH
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 19,449
Loc: By The Lake
Re: Mycelium life cycle? [Re: modulo]
    #744876 - 07/14/02 07:42 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Good posts, I will tell of results when I get some...

I thought over and over if I should just fruit the bag as a cake or break it up into some substrate.

Then I thought I just kinda found this sitting in my garage and it only had two ok shrooms and a dozen meium pins so why not.. Plus after eating the pins I was able to talk myself into anything.


--------------------
GabbaDj

FAMM.ORG          C8.com                    http://www.beatsopjefiets.com/   


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: Paul Stamets

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* dikaryotic mycelium questions LochRaven 3,757 18 05/05/06 03:02 PM
by texas34
* understanding the mushroom life cycle 40oz 1,262 6 10/09/01 04:48 PM
by 40oz
* AHH! possible mono-nuclear mycelium cloned! growin 1,135 5 01/10/03 04:45 PM
by deanofmean
* MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH - FASTER PINNING VIA TEMPERATURE CYCLING
( 1 2 3 all )
Hannibal88 10,913 40 07/05/13 05:22 PM
by RogerRabbit
* Good pics of panaeolus mycelium
( 1 2 all )
lipa 4,332 35 04/08/13 12:43 AM
by Juke Adro
* Mycelium & Genetic Exchange Gawain 1,917 13 10/23/02 11:42 PM
by Anonymous
* Growth Cycle for Azurescens harrb 1,176 8 12/09/04 11:46 AM
by asd11
* mycelium and chemicals
( 1 2 all )
Juke Adro
3,913 32 04/30/08 09:49 AM
by RogerRabbit

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Prisoner#1, RogerRabbit, EvilMushroom666
1,910 topic views. 0 members, 3 guests and 0 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Vaposhop
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.003 seconds on 14 queries.