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Saints vs Colts: season opener
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Take your picks bitches. I know we got 6 days until the game, but lets discuss the finer points of why the saints are going to demolish the colts.

Will Smith and Fujita are going to be all up in Mannings grill the whole game and when they arent mckenzie, bullocks and simoneau will be intercepting the ball.
Colston and henderson are going to burn whoever they are lined up against... and I dont even need to tell you about deuce and bush.

Dorsey isnt that much of a threat, IMO. I think we will see a lot of three's put up by Vinateri though.

Saints 31 Colts 17 is my prediction... but it might change after watching the colts game tonight.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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the manning era colts always kill in the first half of the season. they look like a week 10 team in week 1. the problem is... they look like a week 10 team in week 13 as well.

there is no way the saints will win this game


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I think manning's reputation as the regular season pimp will continue.

I think they'll beat the Saints in an offensive shootout.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Its a tough call to be honest. I think it will all depend on the defense. If either team can step it up on D they will be the victor. How do you beat Manning? Pressure him into making mistakes. He has a great line but under extreme pressure he fails.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: AaronEvil]
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yeah, I just looked at the odds and everyone has the colts with -6.

this is the first year I have really watched the preseason with enthusiasm. Sadly, the colts arent even going to play their starters with the exception of 2 defensive players, so I wont really get a peek at their defense.

It kind of sucks for morale that they have to play the superbowl champs out the gate for the season, but if they win it will be a huge boost. Sean Peyton is sharp and sneaky and I think he has a lot up his sleeve that we havent seen yet.... I just know that he has built some amazing distraction/playaction plays around Bush, since he has been so hyped up, just putting him on the field forces zone coverage or double up on man coverage.
I also think that what they worked on a lot, and from what I have seen from preseason, is the secondary and O-line. I wish we had a stronger center, but the guards and tackles are pretty impressive, especially will smith who is quick and nimble, as well as fujita that has really good presence on the line, especially in zone coverage, and can close up a hole on the line really well to keep the up-the-middle game from being 3rd down conversions.

I think most people are looking at this game as last seasons colts vs last seasons saints. Honestly, i think the colts have at the least plateau'd and the saints have gotten much better... So I am looking at this game as last years superbowl champs vs this years superbowl champs.
I dont think NFL fans could ask for a better season opener.

even though my prediction is a fans hopeful prediction, Im still going with it. While I hope for an exciting game, I think the saints are either going to wow and impress everyone, or fall flat on their face.
It also, for some reason, doesnt really worry me if they lose this game, because the rest of the season looks pretty easy with the exception of the bears and philly at the end.
Season prediction: Saints 12-4
that is accounting for a loss to the colts, bears (end of the season once they have already clinched playoffs), philly and one fluke somewhere.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Colts by 10.

Whoever said that the defense needs to pressure Peyton in order to win was right.. and I dont think the Saints can apply the pressure needed to stop the Colts offense.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: Banez]
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I think all the saints need to do is get their turnover ratio back to normal.... It isnt that brees throws many interceptions, but rather too many fumbles... hopefully they worked on that a lot, because that is what killed them last year.... that and having a weak O-line going up against the best defense in the league.

Im willing to take avatar or signature bets on this game. any takers?

using the spread of course since you guys are so sure the colts will run over the saints.... if I lose, I will make my avatar the colts symbol, and if you lose, you have to have a saints fleur-de-lis as your avatar for a week.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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YawningAnus said:
bullocks



Yay for SU grads!!
Too bad the Colts have two SU grads who are just plain sickness.
I think the Colts will win by a small-ish margin, but I won't be surprised to see it go the other way either.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: jewunit]
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SU got they ass whooped last night by Washington :nonono:


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: Banez]
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:sad:
I only got to see most of the first quarter at the Dome because I had management training tonight at 9. They had a sick fucking pooch punt on third and long deep in their own territory. I left with SU up 3-0, with the defense looking sick and the passing game working. Only the running game failed. Apparently the D took a 180 and sucked the rest of the game, and the offense couldn't turn it up. I'm not surprised though, there was no reason for me to think SU would be any better this year.

Good thing I'm becoming more of an OSU fan day-by-day, I have a real football team to root for.

/off topic.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: jewunit]
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yeah, lets get back to why the saints are going to beat colt ass.

Meachem.... brees now has so many options, I doubt anyone will be able to shut down the passing game. Between Colston, Meachem and Henderson and copper... pshhhhh. I see the saints punting at most three times.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Quote:
Saints Keys For Success


1. Blitz the left side of the Colts' line. With the sudden retirement of left tackle Tarik Glenn just before camp, GM Bill Polian looks like a genius for trading up to draft Tony Ugoh. Polian thought he was drafting Glenn's successor and figured the transition wouldn't take place for a year or two.

Ugoh protected Peyton Manning's blindside nicely in preseason against vanilla defenses, but this game will be his first true test. The Saints will attack Ugoh and guard Ryan Lilja by blitzing linebacker Scott Fujita and/or safety Roman Harper through the left side. This will make Lilja kick out wide to block defensive end Will Smith, a battle the Saints should win.

The Colts might be forced to keep in tight end Dallas Clark to help Ugoh in pass protection, easing the heavy burden on the Saints' secondary.

2. Attack the Colts' cornerbacks. The Colts lost both starting cornerbacks from the Super Bowl team, and Drew Brees should be sure to test replacements Kelvin Hayden and Marlin Jackson. Hayden (6-0, 195) loses the size advantage to Marques Colston (6-4, 231), and Jackson lacks the quickness to stay with Devery Henderson out of breaks.

Look for Colston on hitch routes and jump balls, using his size to defeat Hayden. Henderson must use his explosiveness out of breaks to get inside Jackson after the snap and beat the cornerback on slant routes and go routes.

3. Use Reggie Bush on screen passes. Bush is the X-factor in this matchup because of his rare versatility. He can line up in the slot or in the backfield on any play.

Coach Sean Payton has a separate package for Bush because of his unique skill set. On screen passes, especially middle screens, center Jeff Faine can ride defensive tackle Raheem Brock down the line while right guard Jahri Evans climbs to the second level to clear out middle linebacker Gary Brackett. Once in the open field, Bush can use his agility and speed to create huge plays.


Colts Keys For Success


1. Run inside. The Colts have an elite passing attack with quarterback Peyton Manning throwing to Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Clark. Still, the key in the Thursday night opener could be the offensive line's ability to open holes for new starting running back Joseph Addai.

Center Jeff Saturday, Lilja and right guard Jake Scott must explode off the snap and get inside hands on the defensive tackles. Projected starters Hollis Thomas (weight) and Brian Young (foot) are ailing, but backups Antwan Lake and Kendrick Clancy played well in preseason. By steering the defensive tackles off the line, blockers will open seams for Addai. Plays like this will keep the defense honest and slow the pass rush.

2. Throw early to rookie slot receiver Anthony Gonzalez. Gonzalez, the Colts' first-round pick, takes over for Brandon Stokley (Broncos). At times, Gonzalez will be aligned against a linebacker, usually Scott Shanle, in man-to-man coverage. By using his speed and quickness to shake Shanle off the line, Gonzalez will be free on quick-out routes because cornerbacks Mike McKenzie and Jason David first must account for Harrison and Wayne.

3. Stuff Saints running back Deuce McAllister. The Colts yielded 173 yards rushing per game last season, by far the NFL's worst run defense. Some of the Colts' problems can be traced to injuries to strong safety Bob Sanders, but a bigger problem was undisciplined play of defensive linemen and linebackers.

On undersized as a unit, linebackers Freddy Keiaho, Rob Morris and Brackett must better attack the line and meet McAllister in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage instead of making drag-down tackles five or 10 yards downfield. Look for the Colts to use more run blitzes Thursday to get the linebackers playing more aggressively




fairly accurate match-up if you ask me.

Only thing about that website is that the bloggers on it are complete retards. They said that the colts have better wide receivers and the saints have the better special teams... so they obviously dont know what they are talking about.... especially when they start hating on Sean peyton.
Sure Sean Peyton doesnt have as many years under his belt as Tony, but lets see... what coach did Sean peyton beat last season.... it was a coach that was really veteran and seasoned.....bill parcells i believe it was.
Seems that the exact same shit was being talked about Sean and the Saints.
Im glad that the saints are now under-rated, because it makes it easier for them to be underestimated.... kind of how it took until mid-season for them to realize Colston wasnt just getting lucky and was a huge threat. Meachem will be also.... watch for will smith to get a sack or two for this game as well, and fujita to make a lot of lost yardage tackles.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I told a buddy of mine after a FF draft when I gave up Peyton for 2 WR and a RB that I think Peyton is going to get injured. Someone is going to blow by on the left side and hit him hard. Generally he hasnt had to worry too much about pressure in the pocket unless they are playing a team already known to consistently break through the O Line. We'll see what happens, if he doesnt get injured, he will definately take a lot of sacks this season and possibly throw a lot of picks.

Saints, definately a bit underrated which is nice if any of you gamble on sports. Saints have an easy schedule IMO so they should do pretty well.

Saints win by 14.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: AaronEvil]
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lets crack this thread open again, since it is finally here. The REAL SEASON!!!!

I think the saints defense is under-rated and the colts offense is over-rated, especially now with the losses to their O-line.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I want the Colts to crush the Saints, just to see your heart crushed.


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: jewunit]
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and when they win I will dance and yell "in yo face" with such glee some may think I am homosexual.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I also want to add that in the last 6 games between these two teams, the saints have won 5 of them.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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what were they thinking putting Omare in? let us, on our first drive of the season, make the kicker try to tie his longest yardage field goal.

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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Geaux Saints!! :cool:


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Re: Saints vs Colts: season opener [Re: zorbman]
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Go Saints, go Marvin Harrison!  :smirk:


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