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Offlinefelixhigh
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Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id....
    #730845 - 07/08/02 07:04 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

hi fellows! last weekend i went to a cactus cultivar and bought 2 cactus for me: one trichocereus atacamaensis and a strange one: looked like a pedro but it had hairs coming from its small spines... in the lower parts it had little or no hair... besides the hair, it looked just like a pedro. any guess? pics coming sometime...

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Re: Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id.... [Re: felixhigh]
    #731154 - 07/08/02 09:27 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

When Pedro's bloom/bud dont they leave behind white fuzz? May be what your looking at?


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Re: Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id.... [Re: felixhigh]
    #731299 - 07/08/02 10:32 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

can't say without pics, get them up here soon lol

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Re: Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id.... [Re: felixhigh]
    #731353 - 07/08/02 11:03 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

You really can't say for sure without pics, there are so many other cacti that share very similar characteristics with pedros and perus it makes it very difficult and next to impossible to ID from just a description. Even with pics its fairly common that no one can ID it, sometimes you have to wait for a cacti to flower in order to get a positive ID.

But the hairy tufts around the spines that you are describing is actually a trait that all pedros will have, so the hairs are a good sign. The lower areoles will loose these hairy tufts and become white whilke the upper more newer areoles will always have hairy brown tufts.


Hope that helps Now figure out a way to get us some pics!


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Re: Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id.... [Re: Lizard King]
    #731408 - 07/08/02 11:32 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

dazedsol: they're not bud tufts, the hairs happen on all spine spots.
lizard king: you got me happy with the news that all trichs have hairy spines! this cactus is way more like a pachanoi than a peruvianus - it has fat ribs pronounced only at the top - i've also got a couple of suspects t. perus here (i bought thinking they might be bridgesii but now i think they're peru - very very spiny!). i'll get these pictures and much more within this week or next, im actually very ashamed of not sharing my pictures in such a long time of shroomery but i'll work my ass off in order to get it done.
that guy has a LOT of interesting cactii, i think he has t. spachinus and lots of other good stuff, he's a real entusiast.
BTW, how about the psychoactivity of t. atacamaensis and spachinus? thanks for all replies!!!

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Re: Mescaline cactii??? weird cactus id.... [Re: felixhigh]
    #732908 - 07/09/02 04:36 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Well here's what they contain, but its in what sorta amounts that matters.

Trichocereus spachianus
(Cactaceae) Reported to contain Candicine, Hordenine (which is the major compound), N-Methyltyramine (0.007% dry wt) and Tyramine and also possibly mescaline

Sorry, T. atacamaensis wasn't on the site I get my seeds from, and I couldn't find it in a search, so I can't tell you what it contains.

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