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ID (my guess is death cap)
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Found this growing in pasture land, not from shit though.

I'm saying death cap not because I know what I'm talking about, cause the only shroom I can properly ID is a cube, but from the comparison of photo's they look similair.

I didnt pick the specimen, but it seems to have prolly a white spore distribution on the gills.













I have a few other ID's to post in a little while, cam batteries need to recharge.

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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A. phalloides(death cap)


Thought it might be A. vorosa(destroying angel) but Im'a go with your guess.. death cap indeed


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: RandomHero]
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Ok, if it is infact a death cap, would the amatoxins be deadly to a goat? We have a few goats in this pasture, and last week one of them became deathly sick, constant runny shit, until it died 4 days after symptoms. Another goat came down with the same symptoms and had to be relieved from grass cutting duties.

Would they kill a goat?


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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Its highly likely
being that it could take anywhere from 5-7 days to kill a human
I would say yes it could kill jus about anything that has a liver

..Thats why the bugs can eat toxic mushrooms like its candy..


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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Indeed death caps are toxic to a goats. but...
Given that you live in Louisiana, those symptoms you described in your goats is more likely due to the parasite Haemonchus contortus.

I don't see your pic though?

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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do you have trees in this pasture?? if so, what kind?

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: xmush]
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xmush said:
I don't see your pic though?



Which pic? I posted 6 pics of the amanita.

georgeM said:
do you have trees in this pasture?? if so, what kind?



Yes, a mixture of oak, pine and some others I couldnt identify. Mainly pine though.


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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Thats goes for the same as me and my two fields are full of oak and pine and I find death caps during the cube season
But I never find them growing out of grass always either on the wood line or in the woods


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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I don't think that's A. phalloides.:igor:

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: coon]
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I was considering that also.. due to his pics are not that great at showing good details of A. phalloides.
I have looked at about 30 or so pictures of death caps and they all seem slightly different then J's


We would need better info for a correct ID ...


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Edited by RandomHero (07/03/07 01:49 PM)

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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could be amanita,could be volvariella.spore print needed I think.:igor:

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: coon]
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Hmmm.... At that stage of maturity, you would be seeing pink gills if it were Volvariella.


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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right,amanita it would be then. but not phalloides.:igor:

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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this is crazy I can only reply to jdirty.:igor:

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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: coon]
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Hahaha! Well, you have an excuse for not using the 'reply to'.


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: CureCat]
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indeed


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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I sporeprinted the cap on dark paper, it seems that it is mostly white, with maybe a hint of yellowish in it.

All the pics of phalliodes that I've seen show a veil, and this shroom dont have a veil, or leftover remnants of a veil. That might not be an important factor, but I figured I'd mention it.

Anything else needed for a positive ID? I have kids, so I didnt keep the specimen around for long, after the sporeprint, I destroyed it simply because of the chance it may be a death cap.


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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I was thinking it didn't resemble amanita, but I don't see anything else it fits.

How do you like A. silvicola or A. calyptrata for those? Is that any closer?


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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The specimen showed no signs of a veil. The latter choice says it has a fragile veil attachment, and beings this shroom was quite mature, it may have blown off the stem from wind.

So I would go with the A. calyptrata out of those two choices.


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Re: ID (my guess is death cap) [Re: jdirty]
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It's definitely an Amanita, but that cap surface doesn't really look like one of the Death Cap species to me. The fact that there was no evidence for a ring may be because there actually wasn't a ring.

If you still had the specimen in hand there is a fairly simple chemical test to see if there are amatoxins. But you need a fresh specimen. Try looking up the Meixner test.

Happy mushrooming!


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