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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Booby]
    #7133706 - 07/05/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Seems to me the more pressing matter is who of you is better at religion/enlightenment :thumbup:

-thankyou for the link fireworks god but i could only read the first one after not really wanting to the second was a real test of my patience. I wonder if i'll come back to it (but not too hard)

oh and thankyou for an interesting topic, threadbringer!
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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7133792 - 07/05/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Seems to me the more pressing matter is who of you is better at religion/enlightenment :thumbup:





The flaw with Christianity (as I see it) is that people can practice the most un-neighborly acts against each other and be forgiven and be free to continue without thought for change.

I think All religions stipulate that you "Give away your authority" to the "God" that oversees that religion. Giving away authority in exchange for temporary happiness and being at the whim of a "God" who may like to slaughter you at some time.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: WScott]
    #7133840 - 07/05/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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So, I don't really know too much about the details of Lucifer, other than he was the apparent 2nd in Command Angel after God (I don't know why I know that actually..) and after his rebellion with his 1/3 Angels, was now deemed Satan (which only really means Resistance, say like in an electrical circuit, inhibiting free flow). So Lucifer, the Light Bringer..

Ever hear Terrence McKenna or Joe Rogan talk about this Buddha figure made of pulsating light without borders? You may have seen this yourself, I think it is pretty common with DMT and I think bug has a picture of it in his avatar.

Anyone think there is a relation between this Lucifer the Light Bringer and this Buddha figure made of pure geometric light patterns?




No. Lucifer is more like Venus.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Booby]
    #7133980 - 07/05/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

my remark was mostly fatuous i'm afraid
based on the winning banter between yourself and wscottsdale...

though i found the notion on authority religion and god mostly rather glib


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7133995 - 07/05/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Fatuous and glib, I have to look that up.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Booby]
    #7134232 - 07/05/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

lol sorry

but when you do try to rememeber to overuse them for a period then soon they will be yours...

im doing it with crepuscular and erudite at the moment. though ive got erudite down like a clown, charlie b-b-b...b-b-b--b-b..... down like a clown charlie...


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7134466 - 07/05/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

You were acting the fool but found my reply sprightly. No need to apologize. :thumbup:


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Booby]
    #7134530 - 07/05/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

was i? damn you and your mind games!

and curse these infernal thumbs of mine :thumbup:


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7134537 - 07/05/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

No mind games here. that was what you said: 'Fatuous' and 'Glib'


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Booby]
    #7134539 - 07/05/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

:epiphicallyphantasmagoricalsmiley:

I am not too sure what that means, man. And I can't tell if your posts are derogatory or not. :\

What are your thoughts on the idea that those two concepts are connected?


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: WScott]
    #7134574 - 07/05/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Let's see...You forgive the mentality that cries out for blood and pain as recompense for their own frustration....and you allow them to do it again and again because you love them.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: WScott]
    #7137670 - 07/06/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

no disrespect intended

epiphany-phantasmagorical...

i dunno i was just a bit spun. im not sure i have an opinion on the subject, but i did have an experience of it.

it reordered my working perception of the buddha figure, and as i sat in my back garden i felt a deeper intuition of the holographic nature of the mind as opposed to my working reality.

its a little difficult to explain without embarking on another trademark lyrical rant, and im trying to phase those out, or at least cut back on them... :tinfoil::tongue:


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7138520 - 07/06/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

for satanists satan is a symbol of man, not a conscious deity that they worship.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7138942 - 07/06/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Here is part of a "channeling" by Lucifer called "The Fallen Angel"...

"As I fell as a pattern, a blueprint of an idea, I held in form an energy that enabled beings such as yourselves to experience, light and dark, good and bad. You all come from many places in the universe; there is much healing to be done. The only place in the universe where beings can transmute negativity into positivity is on planet Earth. This is enabled because I, Lucifer, hold a framework that allows there to be duality, judgement.
You see, it is not me that commits the sins you project on to me; it is yourselves. You cannot bear the darkness in your own souls, so you disown it and project it onto me. Such is your nature, being held in duality. You, as a species, have a tendency to judge, and this in itself is the downfall of man. You have heard the story of the fall from Eden. I did not commit any sin. I just gave you the choice. You, in your truth, choose to judge the situation and fall from Grace. Grace is the ability to blindly follow the intent of the Creator. You as creative beings choose to choose. It was when you judged, that you fell from your place in heaven. All I did was give you the space where you could have a choice.
I have held this energy framework for millions of years and allowed beings from all over the universe to come here and transmute karma, to learn the lessons Earth so gladly teaches.
Through me, you will learn to heal your judgements and will learn to love the darkness as well as the light as they are the two faces of God.
Wake up to yourselves. Gather in the projections that you have surrounded me with and begin to heal.
Wash away the darkness that encases me and I will be free to be the Lightbringer!"







Or, as Arlo Guthrie succinctly put it: "You can't have a light without a dark to put it in".


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: hummermania00]
    #7141064 - 07/07/07 04:44 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Hehe yes, if everything would be light, one wouldn't see anything either :wink:
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f_g, fantastic posts ! Thanks :thumbup:

I think Satan and Prometheus have much in commmon.
What did they (the greek gods and the  humans) do with Prometheus ? Tie him to a cliff  in the desert an let an eagle endlessly pick his liver as thanks - for him bringing the 'light' back to earth.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: WScott]
    #16232651 - 05/14/12 11:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I always seem to meet Lucifer when I drink the tea....At least that is what the being pronounced itself as after asking it countless times on my 10th aya experience after being brutally attacked to the point of death...


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: fireworks_god]
    #16232705 - 05/14/12 11:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Here's some more:

" I am a mirror to the human soul. I only reflect your darkness, all that is not with God. The darkest recesses of your soul are reflected in the vision that you have of me. You cannot accept that there are places in your souls that are dark. You talk about being sinners, but how many of you have the courage to accept the darkness within yourselves. You have spent an eternity trying to project this failing onto others and myself. Blaming, judging, simply digging deeper and deeper grave for yourselves. Yet I do not judge. It is all fine with me. There is nothing that would shock me. I have been very curious watching you from within my space create a world that is constantly on the verge of destruction. You are such exciting beings; I am amazed watching you.
You are living breathing expressions of the Creator, creating dark and fore-boding clouds in your very own reality. This has been a necessary part of the plan. You have come here from many places in the universe, bringing many issues with you to be played out. You are using the energy space that I provide to experience good and evil, right and wrong, light and darkness.
You are learning choice and free will. I have held for you a framework where you can experience light and dark. I will hold this framework until the last of you have finished playing
in the darkness. For that is what it is, play.
Elevate your consciousness into the fifth dimension for a moment, and look at me and you will see that I am friend, a brother, enabling you to experience a creative process that allows you to forget, to dream, and to awaken as God once more. It is to waken in the dream, to allow the God that you are, to awaken in the lucidity of your reality!
From the level of non-judgement, it has all been a cosmic joke. All is God; nothing can possibly be left out, so, therefore, so am I and so is the darkness. For the darkness is a very creative process and fear in its transmutation is an experience never to be missed by any
enquiring and curious soul.
When you can accept and love the part of you that is the dark as a creative part of your consciousness, then I will free you from my grasps and we will move together into the Oneness of New Planet. When you no longer look at me as outside of yourself, when you have pulled all the aspects of yourself into the fullness of your souls you will move in consciousness. When you can look upon evil acts without judgement, then you have truly entered the realms of heaven. I await you there. It is not about living your life without care or purpose. It is about feeling and following the intent of the soul without judgement. I have faith in you as I waken within you. As you integrate me as your own, we will both be free to play once more in Eden. For within my soul and yours, there is the information we will use to find our way Home to bathe in each other's love once more. I cannot wait for the embrace. I have felt the love. It has made me hungry. Finally I know what will satisfy this empty heart. The love of your soul. For it is through beings such as you that mankind can free the perspectives that you have around evil. Only when you can look upon darkness with the love of the Creator, which you are, will this planet of yours shift in vibration.
I hold the key. I am a blueprint. Not only do I hold the idea of separation and duality, but I also have the means with which to transform your world into a unified world of oneness and
light. No longer will you see black and white, yin and yang, but you will perceive the unification of spirit and matter. You will literally become Gods living in physical forms. For this was the plan that we had all along to transform the very negativity of the universe through the love of beings such as you and me. For are we not all fallen angels?
The blueprint is a matrix that contains all the necessary information to create a New Planet frequency; beings are being aligned with the crystal at the centre of the planet to access this information. When the time is right, every-one will be aligned and I will send out a new intent.
With this, we will bathe in the Light of the Creator once more. So, until the last person is finished dancing with the devil, I will hold the old way, but I am eager to shift into a new role,
one where I will be misunderstood no more."




Those were two posts by someone else in a very old thread about Lucifer. :headbang:




HOLY SHIT these quotes r too real...These are definitely Lucifers words, from my experience...


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: Saint Marcus]
    #16232898 - 05/15/12 12:12 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That is an awesome quote! I have had to learn how to accept the darkness in myself, it's not an easy process.  But yeah, darkness isn't evil, it's just another aspect of life.  Like that paragraph says, we need to look beyond the old ways of thinking. 

And still, I do prefer the warmth of the light, but I think as a creative being I did indeed have to learn both sides.


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: g00ru]
    #16232941 - 05/15/12 12:24 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

is lucifer alsi responsible for microwaves and radio? how bout skin cancer?

all praise to the light bringer for providing means to change our tv station from afar!


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Re: Lucifer, The Light Bringer [Re: g00ru]
    #16234131 - 05/15/12 08:45 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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oojijimoo said:
That is an awesome quote! I have had to learn how to accept the darkness in myself, it's not an easy process.  But yeah, darkness isn't evil, it's just another aspect of life.  Like that paragraph says, we need to look beyond the old ways of thinking. 

And still, I do prefer the warmth of the light, but I think as a creative being I did indeed have to learn both sides.





Agreed. But lets face the facts of what is going on in this world. As humans are being poisoned and oppressed. As the secret societies worship this deity sacrificial ceremonies are performed (mostly on little children, preferably boys) to feed this being energy. They are not just killed and done with it but instead tortures for days on end and are meant to be scared as much as possible. These lower vibrational beings thrive off the low frequency waves of Fear and all the "negative" emotions.

Good or Evil is a moral judgement of which has little place in a truly enlightened mind. What it is has to do with is high or low vibrational frequency. We tend to view the good as the higher frequency. The higher frequencies hold more energy in them and give the feeling or warmth and Love.

The first channeled quote posted earlier is spot on as well. I think Lucifer is misunderstood. I understand him (for the most part) but I do not agree with him...One time he asked me to sacrifice a young boy. I got pissed...

That is a good question venetianblinds. I have wondered those particulars myself especially in the past week. I could probably find the answer from Lucifer if I asked. I have been wondering if the light spectrums that exist, that we cannot see through a normal humans eyes are actually the higher and lower dimensions. To me this makes a lot of sense and would be easy to explain to someone who is reluctant to "buy in" to there being other dimensions. I always love showing nay sayers the visible human light spectrum compared to the actual spectrum of energies...Bottom line is we can only see about 5% of the light spectrum and there are certainly other conscious beings that exist in those different spectrums.


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