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    #23688522 - 09/28/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.



Lucifer is a title given to "anyone" who claims they are "like the most High".

I want to share this topic to inform people about who Jesus really is (Lucifer).

He claimed to be God. Says that no one can get to the father except through him. But what is Jesus compared to YHWH?

Jesus was a man that told people Satan is the God of this world.

But in the old testament, it's been said many times that YHWH is the only God and that we should worship NO OTHER GODS.


I am the LORD, that is My name; And My glory will I not give to another, Neither My praise to graven images.


Here are some trippy ass videos I found on the subject. Please watch and let's have a friendly debate.







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Re: Lucifer [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23689116 - 09/29/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lucifer is a name that were used to describe a person character. The name means something that is affiliated with the morning star, or the bringer of the light. Whom ever God was referring to, that he was once his favorite. He could of had been referring to Nimrod, a king that was a delight to look at, and or referring to all of His great kings that has fallen into temptation. But the scripture was not referring to satan, because it says that the devil has been made to be evil from the beginning, I had heard that the word devil really means, darkness, or an dark evil force or energy, but it is not a name as we considered it to be. But the early translators could not understand that darkness can be an intelligent being, but rather it is a natural process that happens when the light is taking away. But when the word Lucifer was being used, that the verse was actually referring to a description of someone's spiritual nature. But also that Jesus were called a Lucifer at times.
When translating the scriptures, that they should of have translated the word into its rightful meaning. But they sort of left it in its original state, that has people into believing that it is the name of someone or being.


Right now, that many people believes that the Catholic's church worships the devil, because they doesn't know how to speak Latin.

 


Genesis 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; that is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.”

2 Samuel 1:19 “A gazelle lies slain on your heights, Israel. How the mighty have fallen!


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Re: Lucifer [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23689558 - 09/29/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I spoke with a mason of a very high degree years ago, and he said that Lucifer was trying to help mankind out of ignorance, and was not a bad guy.

I have thought before that Christianity was just trying to keep people in the dark, and the God they prayed to, was actually keeping them in spiritual/mental slavery, so they made the liberator seem like a bad guy, and the bad guy appear good, which would mean people would never break free of the mental shackles they put on themselves, that would be a brilliant move by the church because they would allow people to put the chains on themselves because they would be choosing to accept the faith.  Like convincing someone poison was good for them.

It's just a thought.

I have had several experience with a being claiming to be Lucifer while meditating.  This being had shoulder length blonde hair, and had a halo of beautiful colors around his head, he was beautiful to say the least.

I will watch those vids though, looks interesting.


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Re: Lucifer [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23690968 - 09/29/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Right now, that many people believes that the Catholic's church worships the devil, because they doesn't know how to speak Latin.




The Catholic church is extremely evil. They thrive off Jesus aka The morning star aka Lucifer.

The new testament and Jesus ultimately teaches:

Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. 25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.…

You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also

Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.

Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Now let me show you what hypocrites these Popes are:



Catholicism is sun worship hence why the majority of people think sunday is the Sabbath, which is not.

What does YHWH say about sun worship?

"And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven. "


The new testament where Jesus/Lucifer is introduced is in direct opposition of YHWH of the old testament.

Lucifer is a false god that pretty much tells humanity to go kill themselves while being a slave to their oppressors in order to escape eternal fire. Some God huh? No wonder so many people hate the bible. The new testament was made to confuse people. It's a lie mixed in with the old testament truths that were "supposedly" done away with.


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    #23690988 - 09/29/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
I spoke with a mason of a very high degree years ago, and he said that Lucifer was trying to help mankind out of ignorance, and was not a bad guy.

I have thought before that Christianity was just trying to keep people in the dark, and the God they prayed to, was actually keeping them in spiritual/mental slavery, so they made the liberator seem like a bad guy, and the bad guy appear good, which would mean people would never break free of the mental shackles they put on themselves, that would be a brilliant move by the church because they would allow people to put the chains on themselves because they would be choosing to accept the faith.  Like convincing someone poison was good for them.

It's just a thought.

I have had several experience with a being claiming to be Lucifer while meditating.  This being had shoulder length blonde hair, and had a halo of beautiful colors around his head, he was beautiful to say the least.

I will watch those vids though, looks interesting.




Spot on. Jesus comes in the name of unconditional love and that sounds dandy on the surface. People then come to hate YHWH which was a god of WAR. War against evil lest it spreads and destroys everything.

Imagine.... someone kidnapping your only child, locking them up in a dungeon, raping them, exhausting them of all hope until they're an empty shell, and then finally killing them and tossing them to the side of the road. Would you be able to love someone unconditionally like that? This is Lucifer's message. Turn the other cheek.

Or would you want to find this sick fuck and destroy them? This is what YHWH teaches.


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Re: Lucifer [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23692719 - 09/30/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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6Silent9Knight6 said:
Imagine.... someone kidnapping your only child, locking them up in a dungeon, raping them, exhausting them of all hope until they're an empty shell, and then finally killing them and tossing them to the side of the road. Would you be able to love someone unconditionally like that?




Instead of calling them "evil", can you imagine connecting with their humanity and realizing
they are suffering human beings? Could you possibly have compassion for them?

To desire to destroy them is as violent and any other violence.

Notice how you want to cling to the idea they are the enemy.

This is how we enter the gates of hell.

Compassion is always an option.

We all must decide . . .

heaven or hell


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    #23692851 - 09/30/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sure we can tap into their humanity and realize their suffering. One of the commandments of the old testament is thou shalt not kill. But the old testament also says if someone is coming at you with a knife, at that point you have to defend yourself.

It's your life or theirs at this point. So YHWH commands to kill them.

I find the bible could be taken in a literal and/or metaphorical view. I would at least try to kill them by healing them somehow but sometimes people are just beyond being helped. They've been corrupted to the core and will NOT change.

Look at the Pharaoh of Egypt for instance... Enslaving the Hebrews . Moses had to reason with him countless times and they had to witness countless plagues before he finally had to die in order for helpless people to be set free.


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Re: Lucifer [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23692862 - 09/30/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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The more precise relationship between the sacred mushroom and the 'bright and morning star' is seen in the oracle of Isaiah, directed at the king of Babylon.  He sees the enemy in terms of the fungus, whose life, so glorious in its heavenly conception and fulfillment, is yet so short lived:

How are you fallen from heaven, shining one, son of the Dawn...

The applications of the mushroom epithet to the Mesopotamian monarch was possible through a similarity between the name of the city 'Babylon' and that for the fungus, which came down into Greek as Boubalion, attached, like many fungus names, to the squirting cucumber, Elaterion.  The phallic connections in the case of the plant are obvious, as they are in the case of the mushroom, and the common name in fact derived from a Sumerian phrase, GU-BAR, 'top of the head; glans penis.'

The morning and evening star is, of course, Venus.  To appreciate the relevance of this luminary to the sacred fungus we must try to understand its place in the astral system as anciently understood, and the fertilizing power that it was supposed to wield.  Each morning, before the sun-god withdraws his penis from the earth's vaginal sheath, a rival to the heavenly father slips from the nuptial chamber and heralds the coming dawn.  This star is second only to the sun and moon in brightness, and usurps some of their glory by lightening the eastern sky in the morning and holding back the veil of night until the moon rises.  This star they called Venus, Juno, Isis or Aphrodite.

As we may now understand, their names for 'star' show that the ancients pictured these luminaries as penes in the sky, their light fancifully seen as the 'glow' of the glans' fiery crown.  At first sight it seems then strange that this most powerful of all stars should be given female names like Venus and Juno.  The reference, however, is to its generative power...

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Re: Lucifer [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #23694332 - 09/30/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I never really understood the point in worshiping a mushroom over the creator of everything. It's idolatry to say the least.


But if you want my take: There are many different types of mushrooms. Some can heal and others can kill.

But on regards of the psilocybe cubensis, they can be seen as the tree of life or the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

For instance... If you're a good person you will be blessed with the fruit of the tree of life giving you colorful fantastic trips.

And vice versa, if you're a shitty person you'll experience negative trips from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.


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    #23695007 - 09/30/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Leviticus969 said:

They've been corrupted to the core and will NOT change.




LOL, what rock do you live under?    :laugh:

My favorite part of Leviticus is how people who commit adultery should be put to death.

That makes me smile every time. I like my hate warm, with cream and sugar.


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    #23695072 - 09/30/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, I'm living under a rock am I?


Quote:

Girl's frantic 999 call as father kills cheating wife

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-129800/Girls-frantic-999-father-kills-cheating-wife.html




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Husband 'used GPS app to catch his wife cheating then killed man in front of their children'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11341782/Husband-used-GPS-app-to-catch-his-wife-cheating-then-killed-her-in-front-of-their-children.html



Quote:

Man murders cheating fiancé and feeds her remains to her clueless parents at BBQ

http://lifestyle.one/closer/news-real-life/real-life/man-murders-cheating-fianc-feeds-remains-clueless-parents-bbq/





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Wife chops off cheating husband’s penis, twice

http://nypost.com/2015/01/13/wife-chops-off-cheating-husbands-penis-twice/




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Woman cuts off her cheating boyfriend's private parts and flushes it down the to

http://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,147026.0.html



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A woman kills her husband on cheated!!! Live TV mayhem. Uncensored!

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    #23695075 - 09/30/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

People think they can get away from sin. Nah man, what goes around comes around. Plain and simple.


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    #23695094 - 09/30/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I started to believe that theory for a split second but I mean come on theirs over a billion freaking ways this reality came to exist and I highly doubt it has anything to go with any characters named jesus, satan, god, etc


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Re: Lucifer [Re: hellno]
    #23695145 - 09/30/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Call it what you will son. Karma, anger, justice, God, Satan, hell, heaven, whatever. It exists. If you don't believe me test it out for yourself.


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Re: Lucifer [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23695150 - 09/30/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Leviticus969 said:
Call it what you will son. Karma, anger, justice, God, Satan, hell, heaven, whatever. It exists. If you don't believe me test it out for yourself.



test out what..like do something shitty and see if it bites me in the ass?


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    #23695159 - 09/30/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Or something good and watch your life be blessed.

When you do something negative, even if you think you got away with it, what you're doing is putting it out into the world. It exists now. You'll eventually pay for it maybe years down the road or maybe you'll get lucky and escape it but at someone elses expense. Maybe someone close to you will have to deal with it.

The same could be said about doing positive....


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    #23695184 - 09/30/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Or something good and watch your life be blessed.

When you do something negative, even if you think you got away with it, what you're doing is putting it out into the world. It exists now. You'll eventually pay for it maybe years down the road or maybe you'll get lucky and escape it but at someone elses expense. Maybe someone close to you will have to deal with it.

The same could be said about doing positive....



who know's you could be wrong or could be right.. I'm weird though I don't let myself ever believe anything one way or 100% because when it comes down to it us humans really do just take a guess at everything..


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    #23705573 - 10/04/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23716845 - 10/07/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is truth even in great lies for those who fashion discerning eyes.


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    #23717102 - 10/07/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The matrix has us all convinced that truth is objective. There's always something that can be defined as definite truth that contradicts other truths, like that I'm in this body, and you're in that body, but division is an illusion, and the universe (i) is/am the only body and we are not separated by any universal laws.


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