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Offlineramuk
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Noobie compost need inputs....
    #667479 - 06/07/02 12:01 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

So, after some small sucesses with Acadian Coast on millet/brf/verm cakes my friend decided to take a pints worth of colonized substrate and try a bulk tek.

He basically followed the myco bulk tek of straw + compost, but he used a store bought "composted farm manure, heat treated". He was not really expecting it to work cause of the advice of using "fresh picked" composted dung, but hell it was worth a shot.

He slapped around 2.5-3 inches of the stuff (straw mix on the bottom of course) all in a medium sized (14"X12"X9"approx) sterilte container and 5 days later....lots of mycelium crawling all over the place, probably 50% colonized and more colonizing every day! He's very excited about this and hence the nagging questions are raised....

1. Air exchange - He's concerned about CO2 buildup due to the height of the sides of the container and has read about cutting holes in the sides and filling with polyfill, does anyone have any inputs on this?

2. Contams - small amounts of straw are still poking their heads out of the compost, remove? or let it be?

3. Once a day fanning for speedier colonization? Or no?

4. Read inputs on drilling small holes in the bottom of the container to allow for better CO2 release and excess water drainage, anyone? Or would this just be one more potential entrance for the dreaded C?

5. Room temperatures for safer yet slower colonization? Or slighty warmer for speedier colonization to beat out any contams to the punch?

He would post a pic but he's paranoid of contams and only has a webcam for the pic anyways.

Thanks in advance for any inputs!


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Offlinepowderfinger
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Re: Noobie compost need inputs.... [Re: ramuk]
    #667500 - 06/07/02 12:17 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't worry so much about contams. I think substrates are pretty resistant to contams. I would just fan a couple times a day for the CO2, and would only trim the straw for esthetic reasons. As for what you want to do abut the temps, I would go with what ever is convieniant for you.


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Re: Noobie compost need inputs.... [Re: ramuk]
    #667514 - 06/07/02 12:20 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I wish I can help you, errr, I mean, you friend, but I'm still having lots of problems on my own with just straw alone.

My question for you is, at what store did you get your poop.

It's very difficult for me to find any poop, for I live in the heart of suburbia.

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Re: Noobie compost need inputs.... [Re: lithiumcove]
    #667541 - 06/07/02 12:40 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the input. =)

And, he bought his poop at a local fruit market/gardening center. He just made sure that it was listed as "composted farm manure" and not the stuff that has humus/peat mixed in with it. He reasoned that the non nutritive stuff would slow down colonization. Which he figured is the main reason why the common store bought stuff is not recommended, the peat and humus is basically a cheap filler material. But, he could be wrong, we shall see, he is still a total noob still. Matter of fact he has yet to ever even eat a single one of his fungus, he's saving up for his friends and family. =)

*runs outside real quick*

It's called "Blue Ox" old fashioned farm manure.

Thanks! Good luck as well!


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Re: Noobie compost need inputs.... [Re: ramuk]
    #667618 - 06/07/02 01:42 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Tthanx.

I think Home Depot carries that. I'll go pick up a bag and give it a try.

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Re: Noobie compost need inputs.... [Re: lithiumcove]
    #678366 - 06/14/02 11:28 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Alrighty, here's my friends situation now.

Around 70% colonization, basically there's myc on every square inch of compost, but it's just not the typical crazy bright white.

Colonization has seemed to slow down a bit so he started adding a slight heat from a heating pad in hopes that full colonization would happen and hopefully make for a more even pinset. Right now there is a few spots that look like chunks of bright white fluffy snow that are larger than quarters.

Also a 1.5" pin has formed overnight.

Here's what he plans on doing. Keep with the warming in hopes that the colonization will complete and let the pin mature to the point of full colonization then picking it.

Or, should he just go ahead and case the entire deal right now? He's even thinking about not even using a casing layer since the compost and straw seem to keep the humidity very high on their own.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!


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