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Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza.
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I have seen a great haul of Cubensis and Copelandia this winter here on the Shroomery! :thumbup:
Good Job Boy's n Gal's.
I have had the chance to locate a number of Cubensis this Winter and I have observed something over the last couple season's passing that made me want to get this up into a discussion.
Summer of 2005
Nice tall Cubensis white caps with a straight slender stem. Found in the woods under shade from the heat of the day.
 


Winter of 2005 Short,Thick, Fat! Lots of GIRTH! They come in colors from Khaki,Tan,Caramel,with stem's the same color if not a tad lighter.
The Winter Cubensis are found out in the open spread out across the grass land.






Summer 2006.. The same as above with the White Cubensis that grow tall on slender stems..
They are in the trees and rarely make there way to the open grounds.





And then we have the Winter Cubensis from the past few weeks round here.. Conditions are the same as 2006..


So I guess we can start to debate this.. Why such a difference in build of the Mushroom fruit?
Why the color change?
I have my own ideas about this but id like to here what the others(you) have to say.


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Edited by YESSUP (01/08/07 06:28 AM)

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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: YESSUP]
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I have noticed a big difference with the spring/summer cubes that to me are better looking specimens but less potent found in the shade of trees & bushes. This is my first season to find a winter crop. The fall/winter the cubes are shorter, fatter stems but more potent and found in the open fields. The difference may have something to do with the protection of the environment. Out in the open is less protection because of the foliage gone for the season therefor they would have to be shorter and sturdier. If they have the protection of the trees & bushes, then they can grow taller and more elegant
Can you tell me this. I found growing south of Houston on cow shit what to me seemed to be a group of cubes without the ring on the stem that bruised blue not green. The spore print was purple. Could the winter season have any thing to do with that. I have found many cubes and copes, but confused about the absence of the ring, but other than that they have all the markings of a cube. If you are interested I have some pictures.

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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: nushroom]
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Some fantastic pictures here.


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: nushroom]
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unfortunately we do not get cubes in cen tex in the winter.a few copes but nothin to go huntin over.


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: 2859558484]
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I like them thick!!  :eek:

I just used those black scissors a second ago!  :ooo:

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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: Feanor]
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i have nooooooooooo clue,but i love it ,they seem diffrent threw the seasons,i LOVE hunting mushrooms in the winter,in florida we get em nnice ,short and,thick in the and the winter and tall but as tall not so slender as some shown from the pictures,i do have to say tho finds in the winter can be very interesting mutated if u WANt to call it that,ive found some neat and weird looking mushroom sin the winter ,but this winter has been great for me ,ill contribute some pictures if wanted


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: lovvingcubies]
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:congrats:  Very nice photography YESSUP!!!


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Binanza. [Re: CureCat]
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hey but arent those really thick ones frmo the winter of 05 from a fella neorx? or somthing like that ? i love the way texas cubes look


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: lovvingcubies]
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lovvingcubies said:
hey but arent those really thick ones frmo the winter of 05 from a fella neorx? or somthing like that ? i love the way texas cubes look



Nero?

Nope the photos are from all my hunts over the last two seasons.


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: YESSUP]
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I couldn't find anything during this winter
My last successfull hunt was back in october 06
Back in 05 I did find cubensis growing good in november but this year had to be dry

2007 just might be a good year for me weather is warm for jan.


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: YESSUP]
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YESSUP- I have always admired your postings and outstanding photos your contributions to the shroomery are appreciated. I normally never respond to this thread being from the PNW, but I am an avid reader. I am going to take a shot at this one.
IMHO I believe it is linked to the vegetation that surrounds it and that vegetation's influence on the light and the air exchange or ventilation around it. The fruiting body is the reproductive organ of the mycelia colony, correct? If that is in fact true, the summer fruits grow in the forest or shaded areas because of the need for protection from the intense afternoon heat, because of where they grow the fruit has adapted, (grown taller), in an attempt to ensure its survival by dispersing its spores at a higher altitude where they can be more effectively spread out around the area by the little wind there is in the summer, so... less wind + protected by more vegetation = longer, thinner stem.
The winter fruits are out in the open, they don't need to grow as tall to disperse their spores. The winter winds and water run off from the heavy rains do a good job of that. Less vegetation being in the open+higher winds in the winter = shorter, thicker stem.
The difference in color is a light/heat issue. Winter is colder with less light. Darker colors of the winter caps act to absorb more light which equates to warmth necessary for the developing fruiting body.
Summer is warmer with allot more light. White or light colors reflect sunlight this helps the fruiting body stay cool and hydrated.
Though most of our actives in the PNW grow only in the winter, I have seen this happen with Ps Semilanceata here in the PNW. The stems are almost always longer and thinner when they are found in and around clumps of tall grass. When they are found in shorter pasture grass the stems are just long enough to get the cap above the grass. This height variation is IMHO is to facilitate propagation.
OK, like most of my posts, long winded... but thats it IMHO. Whats your theory?


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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I think that it is very similar to my response!

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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: YESSUP]
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I think that the Sun plays a big part in the quality of Cubes you can find.

Winter time Cubes are for the most part more potent than the ones found during summer.

But, the Copelandia can be more potent during the summer.

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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Ice House Shaman said:
YESSUP- I have always admired your postings and outstanding photos your contributions to the shroomery are appreciated. I normally never respond to this thread being from the PNW, but I am an avid reader. I am going to take a shot at this one.
IMHO I believe it is linked to the vegetation that surrounds it and that vegetation's influence on the light and the air exchange or ventilation around it. The fruiting body is the reproductive organ of the mycelia colony, correct? If that is in fact true, the summer fruits grow in the forest or shaded areas because of the need for protection from the intense afternoon heat, because of where they grow the fruit has adapted, (grown taller), in an attempt to ensure its survival by dispersing its spores at a higher altitude where they can be more effectively spread out around the area by the little wind there is in the summer, so... less wind + protected by more vegetation = longer, thinner stem.
The winter fruits are out in the open, they don't need to grow as tall to disperse their spores. The winter winds and water run off from the heavy rains do a good job of that. Less vegetation being in the open+higher winds in the winter = shorter, thicker stem.
The difference in color is a light/heat issue. Winter is colder with less light. Darker colors of the winter caps act to absorb more light which equates to warmth necessary for the developing fruiting body.
Summer is warmer with allot more light. White or light colors reflect sunlight this helps the fruiting body stay cool and hydrated.
Though most of our actives in the PNW grow only in the winter, I have seen this happen with Ps Semilanceata here in the PNW. The stems are almost always longer and thinner when they are found in and around clumps of tall grass. When they are found in shorter pasture grass the stems are just long enough to get the cap above the grass. This height variation is IMHO is to facilitate propagation.
OK, like most of my posts, long winded... but thats it IMHO. Whats your theory?



:congrats: 

Man you took the words straight from my mouth.

I have dicked with plants for many years.. (Tropicals,Succulents,Perennials,Annuals,ect.ect)

So I have seen the Summer and Winter trends that my plants display.
I totally associated that with my findings from Mushroom Hunting.
At first I was even entertaining the idea of two separate strains of Cubensis..
The more soft and colorful Summer Strain and then the Low Growing Thick Winter strain..
But the more I thought about it the more I leaned towards the Mycelium was just adapting to the cold and forming its fruit to withstand the elements..
But I like your answer better :wink:
You need to post more often :thumbup:


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: YESSUP]
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great stuff as always yessup! :thumbup:
i love wild cube pics as ive only ever seen them growing in a plastic box hehe...

ya know i see big differences in the libs i pick, depending on the conditions.
granted its not summer/winter differences, but early and late season variation.

early season when its warmer and there is less water available they grow in amongst the longer grasses at the field edges, they are few in numbers but they grow big and white. very nice robust specimens.

later in the season, lots of smaller more delicate specimens, growing all over the open parts of the fields, much darker in colour as the water content has risen.

so i guess similar to your cubies, in the warmer/drier weather they like a bit of shade and dampness :smile:
and as the season progresses they get shorter, grow lower to the ground, perhaps to escape the winter wind, i dunno really, just speculating :shrug:


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Re: Southern Cubensis Winter vs.Summer Pic Bonanza. [Re: fromga2wa]
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fromga2wa said:
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bumping a 4 year old thread :commonsense:

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