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Why can mods edit other people's journals?
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I don't think that a mod should be able to censor someone's journal just because they find the content offensive. Why are they able to do this?

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Because there is no stopping us. :evil:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Give us hell mods!


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dubiousness
Dubious compound

it is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.
A penalty for possession of a drug/plant should not be more damaging than the drug/plant itself.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Thats a good question.. Journals are not public forums.

I'm also curious as to why there are unstable persons who threaten death on members of the community moderating the forums.


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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You raise excellent points, my friend.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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I'm an unbiased party that bear witness to the PMs in question before being edited by AngryShroom. A death threat is a death threat. Mod or not AngryShroom should receive some sort of punishment if there is any justice on the Shroomery.

Why were they edited anyway? This is not the first case of a private message being posted in a journal for public viewing. It happens all the time, and is allowed.

Edited by despisedicon (12/13/06 01:13 AM)

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I really think somebody should do something with this guy before this gets out of hand. He seems to be highly unstable, and overly sensitive.

I mean yes it is a nice honor to be made a mod, but him going into a privet journal and editing it, because he had made death threats against a member is totally an abuse of his power. Now he might have friends who would say oh he didn't;t mean it, but we all know if we had said that to him, we would be banned right now. True?

I feel he dosen;t deserve to be a mod, and as a paying member of this board, i feel unsafe with him as one, as i am sure many others would agree. Him going into our privet journals, and editing it is dangerous to safety to our personal information, and out personal files. Yes he might be very good at identifying mushrooms, but there are also great mods like Eris, Shroomydan and Gumby who respect our personal space, and do a great job at identifying mushrooms..

I hope the admins will see this horrid infraction of power and ban this moderator, or at least strip him of his title, because he has proven tonight that he is unfit for the job.. Thank you..


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"They look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits 'em. I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!"

"Eric Stratton.. Rush chairman.. Damn glad to meet you.."

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: MrSinister]
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Thank you for your posts, MrSinister and despisedicon.

Also, I'd like to point out that the moderator Angryshroom also used the IP tracker to figure out my geographic location, which he then posted publically on the BB. As you'll note, I do not include that information in my profile and don't feel pleased that it was disclosed in such a public manner. It disturbs me to think that this is what Angryshroom uses the IP tracker for.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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yeah, fuck that.


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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Thats fucking ridiculous.. He deserves to be perma banned at the very least. Posting a members geographic location is a serious threat to this community. I'm honestly appalled by this. :crazy:


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
Thank you for your posts, MrSinister and despisedicon.

Also, I'd like to point out that the moderator Angryshroom also used the IP tracker to figure out my geographic location, which he then posted publically on the BB. As you'll note, I do not include that information in my profile and don't feel pleased that it was disclosed in such a public manner. It disturbs me to think that this is what Angryshroom uses the IP tracker for.


What? Ok now i am totlay outraged. So this means he can just use this to locate where we are? Is this what he is suppose to be doing as a mod? And how many other mods do this as well?


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"They look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits 'em. I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!"

"Eric Stratton.. Rush chairman.. Damn glad to meet you.."

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: MrSinister]
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I don't think he's supposed to be doing that, and I don't know how many mods do it. I do hope that the administration sees that mods abusing the IP tracker to disclose personal info about members is a serious, serious problem.

Here is the post in question:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6364572#6364572

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
I don't think that a mod should be able to censor someone's journal just because they find the content offensive.

Why are they able to do this?



Agreed!~


I think a Moderator should only be allowed to edit a members journal if there is a serious issue...

like posting someones personal information...such as name and address...etc.

or asking for drugs...since alot of traders use the journal to list their trade items.


tc


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: MrSinister]
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Yeah, I thought only the admins could view a users IP address. Any moderator on this board has access to this information? :crazy:


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Roadkill]
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Thank you for your input, Roadkill.  :thumbup:  I definitely agree, mods should be able to strike illegal activity and personal info from journals.    But beyond that, I can't see why a mod would be allowed to edit what they don't like out of someone else's journal.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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There's journals?

where the fuck have I been

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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> Why can mods edit other people's journals?

So that they can fix things when a user breaks the rules... taking a random example, say somebody posted a PM in their journal... or posted a hookup in their journal... or posted somebodies phone number in their journal... it would be within the rights of the mods to go in and remove the PM, the hookup request, the phone number, etc, from the journal.


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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Seuss]
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That would be OK apart from the fact that we've been told that posting PM's in journals is allowed.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Hanky]
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What does PM stand for?


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Grow Mushrooms from Spores - PF-Tek for Simple Minds

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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Post meridian, it means after mid day.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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Quote:
post meridian, it means after mid day.


Exactly. And that's why posting PMs is NOT allowed.


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Grow Mushrooms from Spores - PF-Tek for Simple Minds

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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Please explain why we were told by ythan that posting PM's is acceptable then?\

You forget who owns this website when you come stomping in with your knee jerk reactions.

A mod made death threats against a member and your crying about harassment and posting of PM's.

Your reactions are pathetic and stink of face saving and damage control.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Hanky]
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Hanky said:
Please explain why we were told by ythan that posting PM's is acceptable then?


Frankly, I don't know. What I know is that it is called a Private Message for a reason.


Hanky said:
You forget who owns this website when you come stomping in with your knee jerk reactions.


LOL, it's not you for sure.



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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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> Please explain why we were told by ythan that posting PM's is acceptable then?\

Donno... maybe Ythan made a mistake?  Regardless, the posted rules clearly state:

Quote:
On Posting Private Messages:

Private Messages are meant to be kept private. We will not tolerate users posting discussions held in private correpondance, onto the public boards. Any private messages that are sent to a moderator or admin may be reviewed by the collective staff, but will never be posted in the public forum.


You can read it yourself at: http://www.shroomery.org/6284/Administrative-Rules-Guidelines




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You forget who owns this website


So tell me, who does own this website?  It isn't you... I know that much.

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A mod made death threats against a member and your crying about harassment and posting of PM's.


Then the admin will deal with the situtation as appropriate, just as we are dealing with the issue of harassment and posting of PMs.

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Your reactions are pathetic and stink of face saving and damage control.


This is not OTD.  If you cannot maintain yourself in a mature and dignified manner, then do not post, or you will be banned permanenty.  This is a touchy enough subject without you tossing fuel on the fire.  This is your one and only warning.  If you do not have something productive to offer, then shut up or loose your right to post.  :mad2:

Edit: misreply... supposed to go to Hanky, not Anno...


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Just another spore in the wind.

Edited by Seuss (12/13/06 04:57 AM)

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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Thankfully Ythan owns this forum, a guy with more common sense than you'll ever hope to have.

At times I try and tell myself that you're an ok human being but your not. You're biased and have no concept of justice.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Seuss]
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we have journals now?

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Hanky]
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> Thankfully Ythan owns this forum

Actually, he does not. I won't go into specifics, but you are incorrect with your assertion.


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Just another spore in the wind.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Stein]
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did you know that 0.9999... (repeating) is equal to 1?


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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Hanky]
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Quote:
This is not OTD. If you cannot maintain yourself in a mature and dignified manner, then do not post, or you will be banned permanenty.


> At times I try and tell myself that you're an ok human being but your not. You're biased and have no concept of justice.

Byebye.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Anno]
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Hold on.

I have to think about his one.

:imslow:

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Stein]
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While we speaking of  personal journals,
I wish we had a way of keeping them private, and
had a way of completely deleting them, instead of just editing.
Thats my wish for Christmas.


Continue the bickering please. :laugh:

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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His name is ANGRYShroom.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: TheHateCamel]
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Sorry, I cant take anyone with a christmas tree comming out of his ass seriously..

What Angryshroom did was uncalled for. Giving out a geographical location of a member is probably pretty serious to the admin.

Will you admin guys take away Angryshroom's mod priviledges??


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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: MAGnum]
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Yeah, I alredy took them away.

He is permabanned.

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Re: Why can mods edit other people's journals? [Re: Burke Dennings]
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This thread has been closed.

Reason:
I guess an official statement is necessary. I'm thinking back as far as my pot-addled brain can manage, and I'm pretty sure I never gave permission to post PMs in journals. If I did, it was before we arrived at a cohesive policy which was codified in the official guidelines. I did argue against censoring the Anything Goes forum, but that was because of a promise I made and looking back my arguments don't even seem that compelling.

More importantly, please stop invoking my name to argue with other admins. We do not have an adversarial or subordinate relationship; we make decisions based on consensus and we back each others' actions. If I make a blanket statement like "you can post PMs", it means either 1) the admins have discussed it and that's the policy, or 2) I'm wrong. Either way, there's no need to lash out at staff who are doing their job, unless you want to kill any sympathy we might have had for your cause. As the popular saying goes, "we don't get paid enough to deal with this shit" and you may just find yourself banned with extreme prejudice.

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