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Vermiculite or Perlite?
    #633989 - 05/17/02 07:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

When searching for vermiculite, I was told that it is no longer in production and that perlite should suit my needs. True or not, I don't know. The real question I am wondering about is the importance of vermiculite. If I'm understanding everything right, it is just a porous material to hold moisture and a food coating. SO, would perlite be a viable substitute for substrate material with BRF?

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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: DismemberID]
    #633995 - 05/17/02 08:03 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

vermiculite can be found at a walmart/kmart kinda store
verm is used in different ways - protection layer to ward off contams and also in the substrate
perlite is only used in the bottom of the container as a humidity raising agent - that's it and only it


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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: DismemberID]
    #633996 - 05/17/02 08:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hello,The answer to your question is no. You can NOT substitute perlite for vermiculte in the PF tek or any BRF tek. Vermiculite, is still around in my neighborhood. Go to a local nursery, or garden store and ask the sales person. I think it is being produced still. My plant nursery has bags full.Oh yes, you could purchase vermiculite online for very cheap if you must. Because vermiculite is very important in the BRF teks.Perlite is used for humidifacation while cakes are in a terrarium, because it olds so much water.Hope that helps


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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: DismemberID]
    #634454 - 05/17/02 02:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

vermiculite "going off the market" was a stupid myth - you can find it just about anywhere you can find other garden/soil additives. if you can't find it, try Discount Hydro.

anyway, regarding substituting perlite for vermiculite, don't completely count it out. folks tend to think that things can only be done one way, probably because of TEKs and such. just recently, however, i read a post from a cultivator that said he uses perlite in his substrate as well as mixed with peat for his casing layer. if i can find that post, i'll redirect you to it...

i haven't tried it, myself, but i suspect the nay-sayers haven't tried it, either...

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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: UHID]
    #634471 - 05/17/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

found that post. it's in a thread in the advanced forum here

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I have no trouble using a straight peat:perlite casing without lime. Been doing it for as long as i can remember. Perlite doesn't dry up your casing. It is not the moisture holding component for me. Peat is. Perlite adds porespace(air). Also use it in substrate mixtures with NO PROBLEMS.




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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: UHID]
    #5921562 - 08/01/06 01:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Perlite is used for humidifacation while cakes are in a terrarium, because it olds so much water.Hope that helps

I'm on the verge on having cakes being place in a terrarium and cannot get ahold of Vermiculite, so are you saying that I SHOULD use Permlite or use Vermiculite? SOrry I'm totally new so excuse my ignorance lol.


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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: SystemOfAClown]
    #5921631 - 08/01/06 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: UHID]
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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: Atheist]
    #5922929 - 08/01/06 09:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know where everyone who keeps answering these questions lives but where I live vermiculite just DOESN'T EXIST no matter how many places you go to or how may people you ask.I asked at home depot,kmart,nursery's garden centers and on and on ad nauseam....If you really want to waste you time growing only a few shrooms than order it online.Even a giant bag of it weighs nothing so shipping wont cost you anymore than driving all over tarnation getting useless answers and puzzled looks from idiot employees at all those stores.I know it is downright blasphemy to recommend anything put pf tek to a beginner.But I have tried a pf tek and than went to spawning rye grain and I don't really see why everyone likes pf tek better anyway,it wasn't any easier than making the rye and from what Ive read it sure as hell doesn't produce like spawning rye to poo does.Either order it as I said or just do your self a favor and lean rye,scrap the verm altogether and look for casing teks that use coir.I am a newbie myself but I realized right away that I didn't want to waste my time with pf when there are so many better ways out there.I mean even if you go that route you are going to want to move on to bigger and better things in the future anyway so I say just start there in the 1st place and don't give up till you get it right.Good luck to you


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Re: Vermiculite or Perlite? [Re: Blutjager]
    #5923756 - 08/02/06 01:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I thought the same thing. You really have to call every garden or nursery store and ask. I didnt find mine until I called the last nursery in my phone book and had to travel about 25-30 minutes to get it.


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