Home | Community | Message Board


Shroom Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Impulse Sealer

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
Offlinezeronio
Stranger
Male

Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 2,349
Loc: Slovenia
Last seen: 3 months, 4 hours
home made filter patch bags
    #628533 - 05/13/02 03:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I'm trying to make autoclavable filter patch bags out of polyproplylene bags and Tyvek for filters. I have problems in applying filter to a bag. I can't do it with my impulse sealer and normal glue doesn't survive high temperatures...

Any ideas?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDinoMyc
Ipsa scientiapotestas est
Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 1,080
Last seen: 10 years, 5 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #628619 - 05/13/02 05:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

try a soldering iron or heat gun.


--------------------
If I made affront, I apologize.
If I made affirmation, I apologize.
I merely came to listen, came to say.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineBruiser
Fuel Injected Suicide Machine

Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 15,255
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 8 years, 5 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #628628 - 05/13/02 05:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What about a high temp silicone?
-Bruiser


--------------------
-I put the chrome to your dome


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePinhead
Oregano
Male

Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 1,819
Loc: Hootersville
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #628661 - 05/13/02 06:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Try Stuffing the mouth of the bag with a big plug of polyfil fiber and then tighten it up with a drawstring.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,275
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 6 months, 8 days
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #628662 - 05/13/02 06:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Try adhesive tape, there are some kind of tapes that survive high tems. I haven't tried them yet but i know they can because i've tried water proof banding aids with great success, they are cheap and they also serve the purpose of filtering air prety well, you can see some pics of those bags in the pic forum. Anyway, i know it's not your case, but i'm sure there are high temp resistant tapes, for example 3M have them for electronics, i have applied some and they work great.

Peace,
MAIA


--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala



Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinethe spiral
Neuroscientist
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: MAIA]
    #628753 - 05/13/02 08:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Una has an illustrated tek showing the use of polyfill. You need to find a ring of some sort (the illustration shows a section of a large syringe being used) to pull the polyfill through. You can get the stuff cheap and it would be much easier than attempting to melt on a crude filter - that's likely to end in contams.


--------------------


"A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." - Carl Sagan


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAngel_Magic79
HOT DIGGITY DOG
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 119
Loc: Siberia
Last seen: 14 years, 2 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #629557 - 05/13/02 07:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Glue that is used to fix bongs-shaterred stem piece- sold at hobby shops should work.Cant remmember the name but its a type of apoxy. I believe there is also glue used on space ships sold at the hobby shop.

Good Luck- Little more trial & error -you will be all set


--------------------
ShroomChicks WANTED!!!
Preferably 18 to 21 years old.
Brunett & AVERAGE weight(I Stress)!!!
Please PM me with a current PIC!
Yours truly Mr. Angel- AKA. MOJO MAN
***FEMALES ONLY***


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinezeronio
Stranger
Male

Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 2,349
Loc: Slovenia
Last seen: 3 months, 4 hours
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: Angel_Magic79]
    #629804 - 05/14/02 02:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thanx for all the answers. I got a glue that is declared as heat tolerant (up to 120C). I will try it and let you know...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinezeronio
Stranger
Male

Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 2,349
Loc: Slovenia
Last seen: 3 months, 4 hours
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: the spiral]
    #629808 - 05/14/02 02:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I will try this also (polyfill with ring). I think plastic drain pipe (cheaper than big syringes) should be good enough for a ring...

However this PP bags with tyvek filters are really really cheap... I found a manufacturer that sells 1000 bags (40x30cm) for about 30$, not to mention tyvek (<2$/m2). Think about it - 1 bag should be less than 5c!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDreaMaTrix
Shaman I am

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #630167 - 05/14/02 10:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

>I think plastic drain pipe (cheaper than big syringes) should be good enough for a ring...

They will melt!!! Tried it, they shrink to 1/2"

Good luck



--------------------





"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinejonnyshaggs420
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 1,965
Loc: Mid-West
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #630382 - 05/14/02 12:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what supplier might this be?


--------------------
Vote Jonnyshaggs in the next election for GOD...Its the responsible choice


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinecanid
irregular meat sprocket
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/26/02
Posts: 11,792
Loc: looking for zeebras, n. c...
Last seen: 2 days, 10 hours
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #630549 - 05/14/02 03:24 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

zeronio, i'm not sure but you might be able to find polypropolyne tubing for a desent price at a good sized hardware store, should hold at up to 140f. worth a try atleast.


--------------------



Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineChromeCrow
one ancient mutha
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/21/02
Posts: 1,878
Loc: Hoosier HELL
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: canid]
    #630976 - 05/14/02 10:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

zeronio, i'm not sure but you might be able to find polypropolyne tubing for a desent price at a good sized hardware store, should hold at up to 140f. worth a try atleast.



put a pc w/ 15 psi is 250 degree's F. spend a buck, and buy a syringe and save yourself the trouble


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinezeronio
Stranger
Male

Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 2,349
Loc: Slovenia
Last seen: 3 months, 4 hours
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #631055 - 05/15/02 12:19 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

> what supplier might this be?
It a local - not on the net. One guy with a bag making machine. I will ask him if he can stick those filters for me.

My experiment was only partially succesfull. Bag and filter survived sterilization but when I inocluated, sealed and tried to distribute spawn evenly the filter partially opened. I glued it back but I will probably get a bag full of contamn.
Still have a lot to learn.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineBarbi
Plastic Person

Registered: 04/22/02
Posts: 12,976
Last seen: 12 years, 1 month
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #633860 - 05/17/02 04:38 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Edited by mndfreeze


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: zeronio]
    #634792 - 05/17/02 08:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

FYI... Try a lower tech approach to constructing your bags.
Rather than use tape, glue, or any other adhesive to attach
a filter patch, abandon the patch altogether and use polyfil
as a filter plugl. If you can't find polyfill sold separately, find
a pillow stuffed with polyfill.

With a hole punch, make a hole in your bag, take a decent
amount of polyfill (somewhat balled up) to force through the hole,
and pull through until tension on both sides of the bag is equal
(filter plug will not easily fall out from either side). Takes some practice,
but you will get the hang of it.



You can take simple packing tape (after autoclaving) and cover the
plug from the outside (while the bag is still warm) and perforate
the tape with a sterilized needle 20-40 times. This will allow air
exchange, but not too much.

As you can see from the pic above, it works just fine without
gluing or taping hassles. Good luck in your endeavors.

Peace to Everyone,

Peaceful_Nomad


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinegoolag
Rx

Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 358
Loc: Stable
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: home made filter patch bags [Re: ]
    #635098 - 05/18/02 07:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

dont know if this has anything to do with this post. but I sent in for a free sample of tyvek from a medical packaging company and they sent me back a huge folder of all types of different medical packaging, tons. I use the plain clear ones to seal up the dried mushrooms and I just seal it with an iron. some bags are polyethylene ,polypropylene etc. if you want the link PM me. heres a crappy pic of one of like 50 items i got lol




--------------------
goolag

[url=http://shroomery.org/faq/]Check out
the Shroomery FAQ
[/url]


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: Impulse Sealer

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Working with filter patch bags, some tips
( 1 2 all )
Una 7,631 33 04/16/04 02:14 PM
by sci33
* Recycle Filter Patch Bags using Jars SalviaEngland 1,000 5 01/18/03 07:45 PM
by ISH
* Spawning in filter patch bags Xetava 2,225 15 12/07/01 05:17 AM
by Alkaloids
* filter patch bags under pressure mycosponz 1,327 15 10/09/03 04:11 AM
by Una
* bird seed transfer to filter patch bag jujitsu3 736 4 09/21/04 07:47 PM
by Gr0wer
* home made filter patch bags
( 1 2 all )
zenman223 4,157 27 12/08/06 11:24 AM
by BeastUK
* Filter patch vs. Gallon jars Chemical_Smile 1,330 7 04/19/02 05:46 PM
by Swami
* Filter Patch Bags - how necessary is a sealer? honeyroasted 1,312 7 02/21/02 10:32 AM
by mycofile

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Prisoner#1, RogerRabbit, EvilMushroom666
5,006 topic views. 1 members, 3 guests and 1 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Myco Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.058 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.