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Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?)
    #5869622 - 07/17/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I just recently acquired these, and I can't tell if they are Trichocereus Pachanoi or Cereus Peruvians.

I know that Pedro is supposed to have wider ridges that don't go in very far...and that Cereus has skinny ridges that go all the way to the middle...but this specimen has both.

I live in a hot, dry region, and I am hoping this is simply a Pedro with a low water content.

Here are some pictures:


This makes it look like Cereus




This looks like Pedro


And so does this








Any help would be greatly appreciated =0)

Thanks


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: Cakes]
    #5869640 - 07/17/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

cereus peruvians


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5869684 - 07/17/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Noooooooooooooo!

=0(


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: Cakes]
    #5870092 - 07/17/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Are you positive?

Anyone else have an opinion on this?


I can't seem to find good Pedro anywhere.


Thanks =0)


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: Cakes]
    #5870116 - 07/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

never seen a severly dehydrated pedro before....so i cant say for sure.

does look like a cereus to me though  :shrug:


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: Schwip]
    #5871684 - 07/17/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Pedro is a lot more rounded.


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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: funnybunny]
    #5872695 - 07/18/06 08:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I thought I had added this message earlier but for some reason it didn't let me.
Can someone please clarify this for me. I had thought that there existed both Trichocereus (now classified as Echinopsis) and Cereus Pachanoi and Peruvianus with the Trichocereus containing mescaline and the Cereus not. The previous posts seem to be saying that there is just Cereus Peruvianus and Trichocereus Pachanoi. Can someone please clear this up. Thanks.

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Re: Cactus ID (T. Pachanoi or C. Peruvians?) [Re: BlueDruid]
    #5873046 - 07/18/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Trichocereus peruvianus is usually rounder, has more ribs, has a blueish green to blue skin and big spikes. This specimen has none of them, so it's pretty easy to tell it's not.

In fact, cereus looks more like a pedro than a peruvian torch. The reason both peruvianus are misidentified is the coincidental taxonomy similarity, not the appearence at all.


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