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Offlineapplebonkers
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Thai and PESA?
    #572283 - 03/07/02 06:35 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Hello everyone! I am interested to see if anyone in here has had much experience with the Thai and PES Amazonian strains... I'm a first time grower looking for information on them. What kind of time will it take for the Koh Samui Thailand strain to be ready for plucking? The PES Amazonians? What is the potency like on these? Has anyone in here eaten them? If so, how much DRY weight did you eat to experience good effects. Thanks very much everyone!


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Offlinehappygrins
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: applebonkers]
    #572291 - 03/07/02 06:55 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

My first attempt ever was with the amazonian. They were fast colonizers and GREAT fruiters... However, I've tripped better running with my shoes untied..




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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: happygrins]
    #572300 - 03/07/02 07:14 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

thats a bummer happygrins-
i was planning on doing about 50 jars of amazionian- :frown:
hope mine turn out good-
i thought there was 3 pes strains-am i wrong?

pes amazonian
pes hawaiian
pesa

i have all 3-
the pesa are fruiting now-very nice dark fruits-about 10-15 per cake
the pes hawaiian are colonizing fast!
pes amazonian project not started yet
there is alot of controversey over these strains-thats why i got them :smile:
i thought they were supposed to be potent :smile:
i want to see how much difference there is in the pesa and the pes hawaiian-
are they the same? i will know soon-

as for thai strains-
i just harvested some lipa yai-i didnt like them at all-
i would have to say that i tripped better with my shoes untied (like happygrins :smile: )
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: applebonkers]
    #572304 - 03/07/02 07:24 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

It is all relative to the factors.......temp,love(yes),time perception of growing experience,(heh),ratio of water/substrate....and more...
As for rhe "good effects" and the dry weight you have to eat,it is something that you will have to discover by yourself,because it is just  subjective to each individual.....the dose is relative with the body weight and "good effects" for me can be mild euphoria ,when for you ,hAlLuCiNaTiOnS!....and so on...however, there is a dosage calculator in the "how to dose" section at the front page...
Some definitional characteristics on the strains can be found at Ryche Hawks site: http://www.thehawkseye.com/home.html
Hope this helps, ***GOOD LUCK***  :wink:


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: Sterile]
    #572316 - 03/07/02 08:05 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

PESA is not PES amazon or PES hawaiian, the amazon and hawaiian are seperate species the PESA is the rumored most potent cubie, but there definitley all different species... if you got the PESA from ralph then its really the hawaiian (im told) you can read the difference on the hawks eye...

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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: applebonkers]
    #572383 - 03/07/02 10:18 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

The PESA strain is a very potent visual fruit. But it tends to abort alot and is difficult to maintain alot of flushes. It does fush in massive form though.:)bluhoney


 


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Offlinehappygrins
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: bluhoney]
    #572401 - 03/07/02 10:41 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Very Nice, Bluhoney!
I am currently starting to work with those.. what did you use for the substrate/spawn?.. (im guessing wheat straw for the spawn)

Thankx!..

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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: bluhoney]
    #572428 - 03/07/02 11:21 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

my pesa on cakes look nothing like that-lol-they way more red


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: happygrins]
    #572476 - 03/07/02 12:31 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

The substrate I believe was whole brown rice( ther are so many I forget sometimes..LOL) But it was then used to spawn wheatstraw and compost.:)bluhoney  Yes the pes and the pesa are two different strains. I asked my friend who grew these and she told me it was whole brown rice


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Offlinepleezr
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: applebonkers]
    #572481 - 03/07/02 12:38 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

PESA or PES Amazonian? two diferent strains


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: pleezr]
    #572483 - 03/07/02 12:47 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, 2 Different strains.... PESA is supposed to be way better...

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Offlineapplebonkers
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #572612 - 03/07/02 03:26 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all of your input..  I'm a first time grower, I went through Doc Bluethumb, anyone have experience with his beginner's kit?  The price was right, and being that I'm slightly handicapped, he accomadated me accordingly.  I have tripped (on mushrooms) a total of 3 times.  This is a very small number, and I am guessing that no matter what anyone in here says, 3.5 grams of the PES Amazonian will do the job :smile:  As for the Thai strain (Koh Samui) it looks like it's gonna win 'best all around' for me, because I want these little babies by the time spring break starts.  I was unaware that different strains produced (sometimes) very very different effects.  I'm going to start a new thread asking the question: "Favorite Strain?", so feel free to drop in on it and give your opinion on the feelings and thoughts as well as how much you ate etc.  Thanks!

 


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: applebonkers]
    #572762 - 03/07/02 06:06 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

thee PESA tend to have very dark colored caps and they do abort alot. but the fruits that do mature make up for that. the PESA is my fav strain as of now. IME they reallly were not all that difficult to grow, some think they can be hard to grow.


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: LSD_4me]
    #572778 - 03/07/02 06:20 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i disagree LSD. i got was was sopposed to be PESA Hawaiian(no such strain) from ralph. it would be safe to say the closest thing to corect his (typo?) would be PES Hawaian, maybe he added the A by mistake. anyway, when i got the syringe it had a sticker on it "PESA" thats it. so this told me it was PESA otherwise he would have gotten it right, i doubt he would make the mistake twice. as i grew them out they are definatly PESA. i am confident they are.



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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: pleezr]
    #572907 - 03/07/02 08:43 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

your wrong pleezr, ralph is a cool guy but his PESA is hawaian and he'll tell you that himself... ive seen hawaian and pesa... their totally different! you gonna argue with bluhoney? i wouldnt! the pesa is more potent, as i said check the hawks eye for clarification...

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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: LSD_4me]
    #573210 - 03/08/02 04:11 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i have the
pes hawaiian
pes amazonian
pesa
all are very different i think-amazionian hasnt started yet-but the pins on the pes haw. and the pesa look way different


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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #573212 - 03/08/02 04:24 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

yep, hawian is a great strain, but its different than PESA, i think these are 2 of my favorite strains the hawaian gives a pretty easy trip, but its real visual

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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: LSD_4me]
    #573280 - 03/08/02 08:45 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

ok; i have not ever had this 'amazonian' strain so i cannot say anything about that. as for the hawaiians and PESA they are definitely a different strain. the PESA i got was from lilshopofspores; fron their site it reads:
Psilocybe cubensis - PESA
A very potent cubensis.  Relatively fast colonizer, with small to medium fruit.  Originally sold by Pacific Exotic  Spora and labeled as a azure/cube cross, turns out to just be an extremely potent cubensis.
These colonized in average time(as compared to other jars i was currently doing). The pint jars done in about 3 weeks and went on to produce very large fruits with a pronounced nipple on most before full maturity and a nice deep caramel cap. These were picked before the veil tore at all some weighed in over 30grams off straw spawned w/ brf; even though it cought trichodermia nearing the end of the 1st flush which is why i never got prints or a second flush; but they were spectacular; large potent and pretty :smile:.
the hawaiians on the other hand i had 2 smaller casings of; both just as deep. these pinned and fruited like mad; like a forest of evergreens or more up close; nice and straight up with all caps overlapping; but they were never more than 3 or 4 inches and the stems never as big as a pencil; veils always still attached to the stem after maturity. not nearly as potent either. 3.5 grams of those consisted of 20 or so mushrooms; whereas PESA shrooms averaged about 2 grams apiece.
maybe lilshopofspores labels their stuff wrong but i doubt it; and can say PESH and PESA are different; but if my PESA is the same as Amazonian; i dont know. my $.02 based on real life experience; think still what you will.
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Re: Thai and PESA? [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #573334 - 03/06/02 05:56 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

nope the amazonian is what PF carrys has a lot of body noise.... its definitley different what you described is a perfect description of the difference in hawaians and PESA... your PESA isnt a amazon... amazons almost never have pointy caps and thats one of the trade marks of pesa... although every once and a while a hawaian will have a point shortly after pinning but the mature fruits almost never have points

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