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PES HAWAIIAN
    #4594333 - 08/29/05 08:03 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

PES HAWAIIAN

Ive had good experience with this strain in the past. Of all the strains Ive grown this is my favorite. It germinates in less than 24 hrs and colonizes well and comes through the casing perfectly and pins like crazy in less than a week and the fruits are very resistant to direct misting. Yields are good and the fruits are beautiful.

I bought PES HAWAIIAN syringes from TLG. The first 2 syringes were the ones that gave me the great results. The 3rd gave me all the great results except one very important one. The yields were crappy. That syringe produced nothing but midgets.
No mutants just midgets. If anyone has had this happen you know its a real bummer.

Has anyone noticed this strain tends to make midgets?
Has anyone had a spore syringe produce midgets again and again and again?
Should I avoid TLG's PES HAWAIIAN and go with another vendor?
I hope this is just a freak thing because it is otherwise a great strain and I would like to give it another chance.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #4594344 - 08/29/05 08:36 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

There's absolutely nothing wrong with TLG's products. The Hawaiian strain will yield quite a few aborts with a multispore inoculation. It's just the way it goes sometimes with multispore. Try isolating a nice fruit and then you'll really be pleased. It's easier than you think.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4594348 - 08/29/05 08:40 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Here's my easy cloning technique. Cardboard is great for cloning a fruitbody.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=4990


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4594549 - 08/29/05 11:43 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This is why everyone says A CUBE IS A CUBE IS A CUBE. Thats not a true statment, because they arent all the same, but this is WHY people say it...you can try 5 syringes from the same strain, from the same source, and you'll get different results everytime. You can even get different results from the same syringe. A cube ISNT a cube ISNT a cube, HOWEVER a cube name, doesnt mean shit when your trying to grow it. I suggest you next time clone specimins you like, and make liquid cultures. This is how people who get consitant results, get those results. MSI, you never know what your going to get and putting a name on the spores, isnt going to change that.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4594590 - 08/29/05 12:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

well sure, fruiting wise and colonization wise, there are some differences between strains. I say a cube is a cube when people ask about potency, although a good amount of them have fairly similar sized fruits. IME a cube is a cube when it comes to that....that lays directly on substrate, I havn't noticed differences in cube strains as far as potency for the most part. Differnt strains are always going to fruit differently, but I agree that LC's give fairly consistent results in fruit bodies.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4594618 - 08/29/05 12:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

There are differences in cubensis strains for potency.

Take the potency test...grow some Cambodians and some Gulf Coast strains out.
After you get some fruits...weight out 3 to 4 dry grams each.

Try the Cambodian strain first...
then wait a few weeks and then try some of the Gulf Coast.

There is a grave difference between these two strains...
very noticeable!~

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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Roadkill]
    #4594640 - 08/29/05 12:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Roadkill said:
There are differences in cubensis strains for potency.

Take the potency test...grow some Cambodians and some Gulf Coast strains out.
After you get some fruits...weight out 3 to 4 dry grams each.

Try the Cambodian strain first...
then wait a few weeks and then try some of the Gulf Coast.

There is a grave difference between these two strains...
very noticeable!~

tc




really? I'll have to give that a shot. I havn't noticed all that much of a difference in PR, Burma, Malaysian, B+, or PESH. I mean all trips are different, but as far as how hard they hit me etc, I didn't notice much difference, except for when I use H.poo. But, I also haven't tried the different strains right after each other. I usually only grow one strain at a time....but I'll give it a whirl.

hehe maybe my body is just wierd in how it handles it...but I have to try that now. hehe Once I scratch the gourmet growing itch I have right now.


Edited by srgtm1a (08/29/05 12:29 PM)


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Roadkill]
    #4594641 - 08/29/05 12:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I tried that, only the TC were a few months apart. 2 grams of each was pretty much the same in a similar setting.

I have noticed differences in potency though, of 20 cubes, some just werent potent when I grew them, some where more potent..no one stands out in either side though, a few are up, a few are down, a few are just different. I've also noticed differences in size of fruits, color of fruits, amount of fruits, speed of coloniztion, fruiting, pinning, and every other aspect of the mushroom, when grown in the same closet, side by side, with everything else prepared the same and together.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4595399 - 08/29/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i have a PESA syringe and i thought that stood for Pacific Exotic Spora Amazon cus i also thought cubs were not native to Hawaiie but i could be wrong but i am going to try Cambos and Thai lipa yais and Amazon and PESA's side by side with both grown on h'poo too see the differnce in potency and vibe of the two


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: mycomatt024]
    #4595889 - 08/29/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

yeah...I'm definitely going to take that test now...so that i can know once and for all.....

I will call it the "Roadkill taste test challenge" :grin:

hopefully I will see a difference.....otherwise I'm going to get a physical to make sure I'm functioning normally.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #4596021 - 08/29/05 08:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I obtained a syringe of TLG's PES Hawaiian from a contest awhile back. Grew it off horse poo, and shared it with some friends. People couldn't stop laughing, myself included. Above and beyond the ordinary laughing effects of mushrooms that is. Almost like being on nitrous the entire trip, it was fucking awesome. This has to be a characteristic unique to this strain, because no other cube has had laughing effect on us to this extreme.

Compare strains grown out on the same substrates, and you'll be amazed. PR gave my friends an electric, almost acid type buzz.

A cube is not a cube, I know that much. But as far as narrowing down the true trip characteristics strain to strain, good luck on that one.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Holydiver]
    #4596433 - 08/29/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What is it exactly that makes them different? Isn't it the same active chemicals in all cubensis strains? I can see some having more alkaloids than others but to have different characteristics when tripping? Now I'm not saying you are wrong, just hoping to understand...


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4596457 - 08/29/05 10:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Magash swears by the Cambodian vs Gulf Coast test too.

There is a major difference in the trip effect of these 2 strains.

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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: johnjohnandjamal]
    #4596609 - 08/29/05 10:50 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What makes pot different ? Aside from male plants versus female, isn't it all THC ?

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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: HippieChick]
    #4597126 - 08/30/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

With pot isn't there different combinations of canniboids and what not? THC isn't everything in pot.

In what I've read about mushrooms, they contain psilocybin, psilocin and baeocystin. Once consumed, the body converts psilocybin to psilocin. So would differing levels of psilocybin and psilocin work out to be varying levels of the same effects, regardless of the mushroom? Would baeocystin be the variable that would make a trip different in other aspects than intensity?


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: johnjohnandjamal]
    #4602705 - 08/31/05 09:29 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Can a strain from one vendor have different characteristics than the same strain from a different vendor??


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #4602723 - 08/31/05 09:42 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Can a strain from one vendor have different characteristics than the same strain from a different vendor??




Sure can.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Roadkill]
    #4602730 - 08/31/05 09:45 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Magash swears by the Cambodian vs Gulf Coast test too.

There is a major difference in the trip effect of these 2 strains.

tc




Hey RK, what are those differences IYO?


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: FooMan]
    #4603602 - 08/31/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Hey RK, what are those differences IYO?




If I told you my experience with trippin on these 2 strains...

it might alter your testing!~


I'd rather have you and everyone else try it for themself...

so you can see the difference first hand.


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Re: PES HAWAIIAN [Re: Roadkill]
    #4622175 - 09/05/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Could it be because one is Asian, and the other is American?

I bet you would find something similar between Ecuadors and Chitwans, or Koh Samuis and Puerto ricans.


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