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MUSHROOM SPORES
    #548962 - 02/12/02 03:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I'm willing to kill anyone who can get me some good mushroom spores for and edible variety. the tastier, the better. i will kill very greatly.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #549426 - 02/12/02 11:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

that didn't make much sense...


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #550339 - 02/13/02 06:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Lol
Well, i think you'll have to do a lot of killing. As others here have explained to me a while ago, edible mushroomes are not sold as spores, but rather as live cultures.
Try searching FungiPerfecti

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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #553850 - 02/16/02 09:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i know they are usually sold in culture, but i want spores.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #555146 - 02/18/02 09:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Why exactly?

Cultures are isolated, reliably fruiting strains. Starting from spores is almost never done, unless one was looking for a new strain, and if P. Cubensis et al were legal, nobody would bother with spores there either.

It's your time, but IMHO you'd be wasting it going from spores, when you could get a culture from someone or even cloning a mushroom from your local supermarket (P. eryngii is a good candidate for that).

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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: altarego]
    #564924 - 02/27/02 05:53 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

would it be that easy? I was thinking of trying to clone some shiitake from my local supermarket.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: MushyMay]
    #565103 - 02/27/02 09:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I might be. Store-bought mushrooms can be cloned, but one never knows the requirements of any particular strain, and you might waste time trying to figure out the best substrate (some shiitake strains grow best on logs, while others prefer a sawdust base). Pleurotis are more forgiving in this respect, and you might have good luck with them.

If you want to get a particular mushroom AND know its favored substrate, buy a kit (from FP or elsewhere), clone it, figure out what's in the block and make more (blocks are by definition NOT logs, so you don't have to ask that question.)

And kits are far cheaper than buying a strain outright as a culture.

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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: MushyMay]
    #570138 - 03/05/02 02:42 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I work in a produce store. and im new to mushrooms as a whole. but i stole a pack of oyster mushrooms. I followed instruction in the book "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal mushrooms" by paul stamets. To take a sample from a mushroom have have to take a samply from INSIDE so you know its contamination free inside. I then just tried out of curiousity and put it into a 1/2qt jar with brown rice flour, verm and water that i had sterilyzed the day before. I tried to 2 jars. both produced mycelium, albeit slowly. one got contaminated. the other one filled out. I havnt managed to innoculate a stump or anything yet with this one jar but i know i can produce mushrooms because it actually produced a very very flat squashed oyster mushroom inside the jar. I also tried this with enoki mushrooms. they did colonize the jars,however since these mushrooms are so small,you cant take an internal sample form a mushroom. and both jars became contaminated. but yes it can work.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: bytal]
    #570979 - 03/06/02 12:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like your experiment worked. Oyster mushrooms are sometimes grown in jars anyway aren't they? I might have to give it a try now. Very encouraging, thanks bytal. You probably shouldn't steal from your place of employment though.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #577425 - 03/13/02 12:03 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i need spores specifically because i live in a cold climate and mycelia would die.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #601663 - 04/08/02 12:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Many types of mycelium are tolerant to freezing. F.velutipes ( Enokie, Velvet Foot, Winter Mushroom) fruit in the winter, and the mushrooms can freeze and continue growing when the temperature rises above freezing. There are several types of mushroom mycelium that can withstand freezing, Grifola frondosa ( Miatake ), Flammulina velutipes (Enoki, Velvet Foot), Ganoderma lucidum (Reshi), Hericium erinaceus (Lions Mane, Hegehog) ,Lentinula edodes (Shiitake )etc..
Tropical strains, Ps. cubensis ( Shrooms ), P.djamor ( Pink Oyster ), A.blazei ( Himematsutake), etc. will not.
If you want spores so you can inoculate with a syringe, you can use liquid-inoculation TEK's instead, and get faster colonization too.


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Re: MUSHROOM SPORES [Re: Incognito]
    #607108 - 04/13/02 09:51 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

So what will you do with the spores other than hope to get mycellium? Why not just buy the culture to start? Thats the way it is done.

I've seen vendors offering edibles spores in a syringe, don't get sucked in. Thats not the way it's done. You better do some research! Different species require different paramaters and substrates and methods.


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