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Offlinecookiewhore
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Casing RYE
    #546463 - 02/10/02 09:01 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

Hey, just started using the Rye "bulk" (if you cna call it that.. doesnt seem too bulk) tek
Anyhow, colonized rye jars (1:1 rye water) were shaken, and poured out into a sterile pan
Next a casing mixture which was 15cups perlite, 15cups peat, 2cups lime, approx 7.5cups water.

Next, the case mixture (sterile) Was poured over the rye (about 2cm thick) and then covered in saran wrap, and tucked away in the fruiting chamber.

Anyhow, the question is, is that 2cups of rye too much, or too little, or has anyone had BETTER casings for rye grain?

Thanks!

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Re: Casing RYE [Re: cookiewhore]
    #546547 - 02/10/02 11:14 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

I usually make my rye layer 2-3" thick and make the casing layer 1"
2cm is too thin of a casing layer.

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Re: Casing RYE [Re: cookiewhore]
    #546639 - 02/10/02 01:14 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

for your casing use vermiculite instead of perlite.


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Re: Casing RYE [Re: ]
    #546766 - 02/10/02 04:17 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

>2cm is too thin of a casing layer.

2 cm = 0,79 inch

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Re: Casing RYE [Re: ]
    #546973 - 02/10/02 07:28 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

damn, thats where the problem is.  i just cant find anything that will suit my setup.
i need a tray system that is small enough to fit inside my flowhood door (10") and right now i'm using these 8x8"x 2.25" deep tin cake pan type things.
what do you guys pour colonized rye/case into?
Also, for sterilizaation.  i have been autoclaving my pans.

any suggestions as to containers that can be sterilized is much appreciated, hopefully they will fit in my flowhood :frown:

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Re: Casing RYE [Re: cookiewhore]
    #547032 - 02/10/02 08:42 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Ahh... heh I was thinking millimeters
Why can't America just use the metric system like everyone else... heh
In that case 2 cm is deep enough as a casing layer, but I prefer 1 inch at least.

You can use virtually any container to case in...aluminum foil cake pans, plastic containers, bowls, whatever..
I use aluminum baking pans 4" deep, and little plastic shoe box size rubbermaids. To sterilize I just clean with soap and water and then dry and wipe down with alcohol.

Just make sure your substrate layer is AT LEAST an inch deep, and the casing layer at least 3/4". The size that matters most is the DEPTH.

According to Stamets:
AS A GENERAL RULE, THE MORE MUSHROOMS EXPECTED PER SQUARE FOOT OF SURFACE AREA, THE DEEPER THE CASING LAYER
To gain the full benefits of a casing layer, an absolute minimum depth on bulk substrates is 1 inch. For fruiting on sterilized grain, the casing need not be as deep. Shallow layers of grain are commonly cased 3/4 - 1 inch deep.

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Re: Casing RYE [Re: ]
    #547616 - 02/11/02 07:51 AM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Well thats exactly the problem Shroomism, thanks for the reply!

Do you use a glovebox when you pour colonized rye out, and case it?
I have a 10" opening on mine, and it really limits me as to what i can fit in to pour out and case :frown:  Those 4" deep pans i have a few of, maybe they will work, but they just dont fit in my flowhood.
How likely is contaminatoin at this point, after shaken up the colonized rye, and add sterile casing?
i'm just used to the old PF :smile:
Thanks man!

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