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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: Konnrade]
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Yea, but i'm not exactly commercial, can't afford this kind of equipment, but thanks for advice. Another thing that I found out is that WW1 soldiers caught in a gas attack were trained to put a peice of cloth soaked in piss over their mouth. I know that this works, but unwilling to inhale my own piss!!! Does any one know of another chemical that would be as effective for this purpose, but not gross or harmful?


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: DrJ]
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Well... you DO have a gas mask don't you? AND a means of providing decent ventilation?

To be honest if you have those two precautions in place you're doing great. If the work area still has vapors and you still notice their odor, just spend as little time exposed to it as possible. Work quickly (but safely!) and then exit to a place with fresh air. Limited exposure to the fumes is nothing to be overly concerned about. If you notice any discomfort or a headache, however, leave immediately and don't return until you feel better and the fumes have dissipated.

Trust me, while the vapors aren't exactly a health supplement, they aren't a death sentence. More than likely I exposed myself to twice the unhealthy fumes when I put together my model of an F-14a inside of my bathroom :tongue:. I'm still fine, and I would say my brain is quite intact. :grin:


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: Konnrade]
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LMAO...yea.. i take all those precautions, and don't have probs. Besides all the weed the tabacco i smoke will probably give me cancer before the fumes do!!! Still, want to be as safe as possible.
Will post pics n results of my next batch.


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: DrJ]
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Heh, yes... most likely your fume exposure is of no consequence compared to that of smoking.

And if anything it pales in comparison to my truly heroic exposure to superglue fumes.

Ironic when you consider the fact that I count superglue as one of my mortal enemies. What kind of evil man invents a kind of glue that takes a few minutes to dry on the object your gluing, but that dries instantly whenever it touches skin? It's a curse from the devil I tells you!

But I digress :tongue:

I look forward to seeing your pictures.

If you wouldn't mind posting pictures of your equipment too, I'd love to see it. Especially the gas mask :cool:


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: Konnrade]
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lol...saw program here called Death Wish Live. Its about this crazy british escape artist. For one escape he superglued his hands together!
He ripped of all the skin from both hands!!!
Owch!!
Later gtg


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: DrJ]
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Fun fact: the fumes emitted by superglue react chemically with substances present on your skin. After doing so, it forms a hard solid that is white and opaque.

As a result of this opportune phenomena, the fumes of superglue (cyanoacrylate) are used to turn latent fingerprints into a visible, durable image for forensic analysis. It's referred to as "superglue fuming".

Sorry for going off on a tangent. :tongue:

Good luck with your extraction! :peace:


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: Konnrade]
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i asked earlier in post no one assessed can xylene replace naphtha in a DXM extract


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: thedudenj]
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I assume so, it reacts in more or less the same way. Check Wilipedia for it boiling temps. and stuff, they may vary to your original extraction method (if appilcaable, if you freeze for defatting etc then this may not apply) and ajust accoringly.
This is only ffrom theory not practice, but let me know how it goes.

Dr J


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: DrJ]
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hmm my final product is really milky coloured you combined it to a weak acid to extract the stuff from the naptha in my case xylene


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: thedudenj]
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just add more acid till crystals star to form... i think this should sort it but then i don't know exactly what method your using.


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: thedudenj]
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From the sounds of it he's using a precipitation approach. Instead of mixing thoroughly with acid water, which forms salts that drift into solution in the water (which has to be evaporated), you can put the solvent into a container and add very tiny quantities of acid. The acids form the salt, but there is nowhere near enough water to dissolve them, so they precipitate out of solution and can be collected.

I imagine there is a noticeable amount of waste possible with this method though.

Also, I'm just guessing. He's not said anything that would indicate what method he is using in any certain capacity.


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Re: Is zippo lighter fuel an acceptable substitue for Toulene? [Re: Konnrade]
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This is similar to my method. I repeat the process 3 times to get all the crystals out.


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